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On today's special episode, a raw and unflinching conversation between MAHA advocates from Georgia and a group of veterans from public health.
The discussion dives straight into one of the biggest drivers of mistrust in public health today: the COVID vaccine. Is it a life-saving marvel of modern science or a dangerous technology imposed on the public with little regard for liberty and safety?
The groups share profound concerns about where we’ve been and where we’re headed when it comes to Americans' trust in public health, medicine, and science. Many of them differ fundamentally on the promise of the vaccine versus what it delivered, on how the healthcare system delivered and failed at the same time, and on how that trust lost can be earned back.
Yet the discussion is grounded in respect, empathy, and a shared goal of healthier communities, which might just be the key to pulling us out of our spiral of mistrust.
Hosts:
Brinda Adhikari
Tom Johnson
Guests:
Joining the discussion from MAHA Georgia are Joey Fargar, Aaron Rossi, Christy Kennedy, Melinda Hicks, and from Ohio, Elizabeth Frost.
From public health, Paul Offit, Reed Tuckson, Anne Zink, and Ashwin Vasan.
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Got questions? Comments? We'd love to hear from you! Email us at [email protected]
By Brinda Adhikari, Tom Johnson, Maggie Bartlett, Dr. Mark Abdelmalek4.7
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On today's special episode, a raw and unflinching conversation between MAHA advocates from Georgia and a group of veterans from public health.
The discussion dives straight into one of the biggest drivers of mistrust in public health today: the COVID vaccine. Is it a life-saving marvel of modern science or a dangerous technology imposed on the public with little regard for liberty and safety?
The groups share profound concerns about where we’ve been and where we’re headed when it comes to Americans' trust in public health, medicine, and science. Many of them differ fundamentally on the promise of the vaccine versus what it delivered, on how the healthcare system delivered and failed at the same time, and on how that trust lost can be earned back.
Yet the discussion is grounded in respect, empathy, and a shared goal of healthier communities, which might just be the key to pulling us out of our spiral of mistrust.
Hosts:
Brinda Adhikari
Tom Johnson
Guests:
Joining the discussion from MAHA Georgia are Joey Fargar, Aaron Rossi, Christy Kennedy, Melinda Hicks, and from Ohio, Elizabeth Frost.
From public health, Paul Offit, Reed Tuckson, Anne Zink, and Ashwin Vasan.
Thanks for listening! If you like us, please leave a review, rate us, and please subscribe!
Got questions? Comments? We'd love to hear from you! Email us at [email protected]

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