Benedikt is out again this week, so Brian is joined by his good friend, startup partner, confidant, and sometimes co-conspirator, Richard Miller. They talk about Richard's current project, the origins of the idea, and the importance of laying in a hammock so people will think you're sleeping.

No, really. It's important.

• @richardkmiller
• Richard's personal site
• Goldie May
• Rich Hickey’s “Hammock-Driven Development”