Pa‘a Sibbett sits down with Kaleikoa Kā‘eo. Their conversation explores the actions of Captain Metcalf, touches on the events at Olowalu, and examines the far-reaching costs and consequences of colonialism. Together, they reflect on the human and environmental toll of greed, and how the pursuit of wealth in ways that are not pono continues to disrupt ʻāina, ea, and community. These impacts are not just historical—they continue to shape our world today.

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