Jon & Rob dive into the mire of self worth and esteem.  A topic we are all sure to connect with, discovering the truth about who we are!

Jon & Rob dance on the edge of terror in a discussion that is sure to make you scream... well they hope not!  Is fear a good motivator?  Does it make for sound relationships and human flourishing?  Yep, that's the stuff of legendary conversations! Join us!

Join Rob & Jon as they have a not-so-perfect conversation about perfection.  Ever struggled with OCD tendencies or feelings of failure due to a lack of perfection in your life?  Then this is the conversation for you... or for everybody for that matter!

Jon & Rob enter the trenches as they tackle the age old questions of good and evil.  How do we find our way?  Is there a way back for anyone in the clutches of evil?  For that matter, what is good and evil anyhow?

Rob & Jon discuss our propensity for mask wearing and it's impact on relationships and flourishing in this first episode of Staring Into the Sun.  

We are two brothers approaching the turbulent issues of life and culture from two different perspectives, hoping to capture the deeper truths that explode from the beautiful collision of head and heart.  Join us on this first foray of conversation.