This week on Out of Office:A Travel Podcast, Kiernan talks to New York Times travel journalist Peter Kujawinski about his epic exploration of 53 state parks across the United States. His trip revealed extraordinary scenery, troubling Native American history, and little known presidential facts.

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/travel/state-parks-eastern-united-states.html

https://www.niagarafallsstatepark.com/

https://www.mass.gov/locations/walden-pond-state-reservation

https://www.robertfrostfarm.org/visit-farm

https://parksandrecreation.idaho.gov/parks/harriman

https://gfp.sd.gov/parks/detail/custer-state-park/

https://stateparks.utah.gov/parks/kodachrome-basin/

http://www.ctvisit.com/listings/sleeping-giant-state-park

https://www.starvedrockstatepark.org/

https://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/2971.htm

https://www.dnr.illinois.gov/Parks/Pages/GiantCity.aspx

http://mdwfp.com/parks-destinations/state-parks/wall-doxey

http://oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPage&parkId=36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ulkBctY_JM

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/20/arts/cesar-pelli-dead.html