Step Out And Thrive with Bethany B. Joy

Ever look at your bank account and feel that squeeze of fear? In this one-part episode of Step Out & Thrive, I sit down with author and coach Belinda Terro Mooney to talk about shifting from scarcity panic to steady, faith-led action.

Belinda shares her story of growing up poor in rural Louisiana, rebuilding life as a single mom, and what it looks like to ask God for a plan, then work the plan. You’ll hear how she faced a “poverty mindset” moment, picked up the phone, weathered the no’s, and launched a writing membership that filled — including one member who paid for the full year up front. We also walk through a simple interactive appreciation practice you can use when fear spikes and you need to find your footing with God again.

If you’re a coach, counselor, pastor, high-capacity parent, or anyone who carries a lot for others, this conversation will give you oxygen, perspective, and a next step.

Connect with Belinda: belindaterromooney.com
More about my work and groups: StepOutAndThrive.com
Interactive appreciation steps: thrivewithbethany.com

Dare to do more than just survive. Step Out and Thrive.

0:00 – Welcome and who this show is for
1:03 – Meet Belinda Terro Mooney: coach, author of nine books, mom of seven
2:07 – Why money mindset matters for all of us right now
3:05 – Belinda’s story: from rural poverty to starting over as a single mom
4:15 – Panic moment to prayer: asking God for a plan
5:05 – Taking action amid fear: calls, follow-ups, and a lot of no’s
5:58 – Breakthrough: seven signups and one full-year payment
6:50 – Relationship over transaction: why the calls still mattered
8:54 – Practical steps Belinda took and what she’d do differently next time
10:03 – How she teaches writers to ask God for an outline and finish
12:20 – When fear spikes: stop, breathe, ask for the next right thing
15:00 – Interactive appreciation practice you can try today
16:31 – Fingerprints of provision: unexpected checks and timely payments
18:58 – Permission to experiment and push on barely-open doors
20:45 – How to connect with Belinda and with Step Out & Thrive

21:58 – Closing encouragement and sign-off

• Scarcity loses power when you pray for a plan and then work the plan with small, consistent steps.

• Sales can be ministry when you lead with care, clarity, and permission to say no.

• Interactive appreciation helps your nervous system settle so you can hear God again.

• Community multiplies momentum — don’t do this season alone.

• Provision often meets motion: show up, serve, follow up, and watch doors open.

• Guest: belindaterromooney.com

• Host: StepOutAndThrive.com

• Interactive appreciation steps: thrivewithbethany.com

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Welcome back to the Step Out & Thrive Podcast. I’m your host, Bethany B. Joy, and this episode is part of my series, The Stories We Tell Ourselves.

Today’s story: The body I didn’t choose.

I’m answering three powerful questions from friends:

• Marlene – How did you come to terms with your loss of sight?
• Aubrey – What advice would you give young adults with CHARGE syndrome?
• Stephanie – What is a simple thing you do regularly that makes a big difference?

To get there, I share one of my most-requested stories: the day outside the orthodontist’s office when I tripped on the sidewalk, hit my knees hard, and replayed the doctor’s words in my mind: your hearing and vision are both decreasing, and we don’t know how far it will go.

Flat on the ground, in pain and in shock, I looked up and saw an enormous rainbow reflected in the glass. In that moment, I sensed God inviting me to do something I didn’t want to do: not just “see” beauty in the middle of the loss, but chase it.

Underneath it all, I was wrestling with this lie:

“My disability makes me a burden. My limitations mean I’m failing at life.”

In this episode, we talk about:

• What it’s really like to ask for help with a white cane, a guide dog, and public transportation
• The fear of being “too much” for other people (and what happens when some people pull away)
• How other people’s reactions often say more about their story than yours
• Two reframes that changed how I see disability, limitation, and calling
• Why Interactive Appreciation has been a simple, daily practice that carries me through hard days

A couple of key reframes:

• “Limitations are not punishments. They are invitations.”
• “My vision loss didn’t shrink my life; it expanded my compassion, adaptability, and capacity to lead others.”

Short timeline:

• 0:05 – Welcome back & who this podcast is for
• 2:54 – The series: the lies we tell ourselves
• 3:26 – Today’s theme: the body I didn’t choose
• 4:06 – Listener questions from Marlene, Aubrey, and Stephanie
• 5:56 – The orthodontist sidewalk story and the doctor’s call
• 7:59 – The giant rainbow and God’s invitation to chase beauty
• 10:04 – The lie: my disability makes me a burden
• 11:40 – Reframes about limitation, invitation, and leadership
• 15:06 – How Interactive Appreciation became a lifeline
• 16:47 – This week’s reflection question

Question for you:
What if your limitation is actually the place God plans to lead others through? What would change?

I’d love to hear your response in the episode Q&A, by text, or wherever you follow along.

Next steps & community:

If you long for a place where you don’t have to hide your limitations or be “the strong one” all the time:

• TIP Community Group – a 6-month, story-focused community. The next round starts in January, and I’m scheduling interest calls now.
• Check-In Thursday Group – a light, twice-a-month rhythm to stay grounded and connected.

You can also grab my free Interactive Appreciation Guide and my guide to building transformational groups at BethanyBJoy.com.

If this episode encouraged you, please follow the show, tap a rating, and share it with a friend who needs to know they are not “too much.”

ver keep a dream on the back burner for months (or years)? In this finale, I (Bethany Joy) let Coach Albert Pellissier coach me live on my own stuck project—my book. We dig into why “not enough time” isn’t the true block, what Knot Therapy is, and how a simple burner buddy practice can melt resistance in 7–14 days.

You’ll learn how to name the real fears (the ones that only show up once the project succeeds), shrink them with a 10-minute daily ritual, and take compassionate micro-steps—without becoming a “super version” of yourself.

✨ Albert’s worksheets & book: https://backburnerbook.com
🌿 My work: https://StepOutAndThrive.com
🤝 Community: Check-In Thursday group (link in show notes)

Dare to do more than just survive… Step Out & Thrive.

⏱️ Outline & Timestamps

0:00 – Welcome back (Part 4) and who this space is for: deeper, safer conversations
1:08 – Who’s Albert Pellissier? (coach for blocks to dreams/calling)
2:05 – Bethany gets real: the “back burner” book confession
3:05 – Step 1: Name your “damn good reasons” (time, kids, tech/process)
6:21 – The real reason you’re stuck: a protective inner part says “not a good idea”
7:32 – Future-cast exercise: “Now that the book is done… what bothers me?”
8:24 – Post-success fears: money spent, clients lost, speaking tour pressure, inevitable typos
11:04 – Why those hidden, self-centered fears win (they’re learned from past pain)
13:02 – What’s actually true vs. what your nervous system remembers
13:26 – Phase 1 of Knot Therapy: the daily list + burner buddy
15:00 – Exactly what to say (script) and the one job of the buddy
17:53 – What changes by day 4–8: the bar lowers; micro-actions appear
20:46 – Example micro-action: choosing a writing tool and turning off distractions
22:43 – Connecting a current fear to an old story (and why that matters)
25:15 – Workshop story: 67-year-old’s fifth-grade block → life reset
27:07 – Why this takes days, not an hour (and how God meets us in the unhurried)
28:07 – Side effect: burner buddies often become real friends
29:02 – How this deepened Albert’s own marriage (and why it bonds groups)
30:10 – Bethany’s community vision: deeper connection > doing more
31:22 – How to get worksheets, the book, or bring Albert to your group
33:03 – Final invite: don’t do this alone—download, buddy up, begin

• Your “good reasons” aren’t the real reasons. The blocker is usually a protective inner part guarding you from future pain.

• Name the post-success fears. “Now that it’s done, what bothers me?” puts the actual knots on paper.

• Do 10 minutes a day for 7–14 days. Read your list aloud to a burner buddy; they only say “Thank you for sharing.”

• Let the bar drop. You don’t need to become “more disciplined”; the obstacle shrinks as it’s spoken.

• Take micro-steps. One small decision (tool, time block, first paragraph) is how momentum is born.

• Do it in community. This work bonds people fast—and keeps you from quitting.

• Albert’s resources & free worksheets: https://backburnerbook.com

• Bethany’s site: https://StepOutAndThrive.com

• Community: Check-In Thursday group (link in show notes)

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Ever wonder how to move from “I think I’m called” to “I’m actually thriving—and not doing it alone”? In part 3 of our series, I (Bethany Joy) sit down again with Coach Albert Pellissier to finish the story: how a failing salon became a learning community, how teaching unlocked his calling, and why you don’t have to do this by yourself.

We talk reframing your work, healing the inner conflicts that quietly sabotage progress, learning to sell as service, and building systems that free your time so you can pour into people.

✨ Connect with Albert: backburnerbook.com
🌿 Learn more about my work: StepOutAndThrive.com
🤝 Join community: Check-In Thursday group (link in show notes)

Dare to do more than just survive… Step Out and Thrive.

0:00 – Welcome back + who this podcast is for (deep, safe connection)
0:55 – This is part 3—why you’ll want last week’s context
1:38 – Recap: from “rent checks” to a personal development hub
2:44 – What changed for the stylists: best practices → revenue jumps
3:40 – What changed for Albert: discovering a love for teaching
4:47 – Stepping into calling required inner work (mindset, healing)
5:35 – Coaches, practitioners, breathwork, meditation—trying what works
6:58 – The common denominator: inner conflict blocks action
8:13 – Moving from hobby to livelihood: learning to sell as service
9:58 – Reframing sales: if it helps them, it’s loving to offer it
10:49 – You can’t pour from empty: let people pour into you
12:43 – It’s about people, not a finish line: ahead/with/behind
13:35 – Quote: “The seed of your dream contains all of the medicine you need.”
14:00 – Constant evolution: speaking → inner healing → sales → marketing → tech
16:44 – Systems that save time: design one location like you own 500
17:32 – Example: delegating errands recaptured hours each month
18:52 – Trust, shared leadership, and win-wins with tenants
20:43 – What Albert does now: workshops, groups, private clients
21:10 – Men’s retreats (3x/yr) near New Orleans; book follows the process
22:50 – IFS-style work: identify and resolve the inner critic/blocker
24:56 – Why “fits and starts” happen—and how to stop self-sabotage
25:54 – How to connect + invitation to community

• Reframe before you replace. The work you have may become the work you love.

• Do the inner work. Most stuck points trace back to unseen inner conflict.

• Sell as service. If it helps them, it’s loving to invite investment.

• Design for scale. Build systems that free you to serve people.

• Don’t do it alone. Let mentors pour into you while you pour into others.

• Albert’s resources & book: backburnerbook.com

• Bethany’s site: StepOutAndThrive.com

• Community: Check-In Thursday group (link in show notes)

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Ever feel stuck at a crossroads—wondering if you should walk away or keep going? In this week’s Step Out & Thrive Podcast, I (Bethany Joy) sit back down with Coach Albert Pellissier to continue last week’s conversation. Albert shares the one shift that changed everything: “Fill your present place.”

From near-empty salon suites to a thriving community that doubled and tripled revenue, Albert shows how choosing care over control—and people over profit—can transform what’s right in front of you. If you’re a parent, teacher, counselor, coach, or pastoral care leader who’s tired of one-to-one burnout and ready to build life-giving community, this episode will meet you right where you are.

✨ Connect with Albert: backburnerbook.com
🌿 Learn more about my work: StepOutAndThrive.com

Dare to do more than just survive… Step Out and Thrive.

0:00 – Welcome back + who this show is for (one-to-one leaders craving healthy connection)
0:46 – Re-introducing guest: Coach Albert Pellissier
1:08 – What makes Albert feel alive: the “light-on” moment in clients
2:03 – Recap of last week’s story: business collapse and the “three-day depression”
3:01 – The lost feeling: “I’ve done everything—and it’s still not working”
3:45 – Choosing a different response: reaching for a book instead of the blanket
4:01 – The line that pierced everything (Og Mandino): trading potential for security
5:00 – Chasing “security” vs. living with faith (money, control, surrender)
6:47 – Dancing in the rain: the daily wrestle with control and trust
8:59 – Two shifts: (1) See what you’ve neglected, (2) Do the right thing now
11:00 – The decision: fill your present place (care > extraction)
12:01 – Little acts of stewardship: bulbs, fountains, latches… attitude
12:54 – A parking-lot miracle: a mom calls, then rents the largest space
14:47 – Momentum: three more stylists join within two weeks
15:44 – From “rent checks” to business incubator: free weekly classes
16:51 – Peer mentorship: veterans pour into newcomers → revenue doubles/triples
17:49 – Culture change: collaboration beats competition (and the salon stays full)
18:13 – No more ad spend—nine years of full occupancy
19:40 – The takeaway: see people, invest in community, watch things grow
20:52 – Two big lessons for your own crossroads
21:29 – Reframing: changing the frame changes everything
22:55 – Teaser: Albert’s “not therapy” approach
23:31 – Get the book + resources: backburnerbook.com
25:01 – What’s next + Bethany’s sign-off

• Fill your present place. Pour care into what’s right in front of you before you pivot.

• People over profit changes cultures—and results often follow.

• Security is an illusion when it’s built on control; stewardship + faith are sturdier.

• Reframing (changing your frame of reference) can transform the same job into a new calling.

• Community multiplies growth: peer teaching and shared wisdom accelerate results.

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What do you do when life completely falls apart? When every plan crashes and you just want to pull the covers over your head and give up?In this heartfelt episode of the Step Out & Thrive Podcast, I (Bethany Joy) sit down with my friend Albert Pellissier, a coach and entrepreneur who found purpose through pain. Albert opens up about losing his business, hitting rock bottom, and discovering how those dark moments can actually become turning points toward hope and new life.If you’re a coach, counselor, or pastor who pours into everyone else but feels drained or alone, this conversation will remind you that you’re not alone. You’ll hear real stories, honest encouragement, and practical ways to start moving again — even if it’s just one small step.✨ Connect with Albert: backburnerbook.com✨ Learn more about my work: StepOutAndThrive.com🎧 Listen in and remember — dare to do more than just survive… Step Out and Thrive!⏱️ Episode Outline & Timestamps0:00 – Welcome to the Step Out & Thrive Podcast0:17 – Who this podcast is for: counselors, coaches & pastors feeling burnt out0:46 – Meet guest Albert Pellissier and his Faith to Influence connection1:22 – Albert’s journey from entrepreneur to coach2:25 – The salon business collapse that changed everything3:56 – That “three-day depression” moment — and what it revealed4:48 – How hitting bottom can become a catalyst for change6:06 – Why we tend to isolate when we most need connection7:08 – Normalizing the dark places we all face8:07 – One thing you can do to move forward right now9:02 – Finding inspiration in The Greatest Miracle in the World10:42 – Full-circle hope: turning pain into purpose11:54 – How shared pain connects us more than perfect stories13:11 – Final encouragement + how to reach Albert14:10 – Dare to do more than just survive… Step Out and Thrive!💡 Key TakeawaysIt’s normal to hit emotional lows — it doesn’t mean you’re failing.Reaching out for help or inspiration (even a book!) can shift everything.Pain is often the bridge that connects us to others more deeply.Small steps forward — even baby ones — can rebuild momentum.Your story, once healed, becomes someone else’s lifeline.#StepOutAndThrivePodcast#BethanyJoy#FaithBasedPodcast#ChristianCoaching#MentalHealthForMinistry#PurposeThroughPain#FaithToInfluence#EncouragementPodcast#HopeAndHealing#ResilientFaithStep Out and Thrive Podcast, Bethany Joy, Christian life coaching, faith-based counseling, hope after failure, finding purpose, burnout recovery, Christian entrepreneurs, overcoming depression, resilience, mental health for pastors, personal growth, Christian encouragement

Your testimony isn’t something you share after the storm is over — it’s unfolding right now.

In this final episode of the Walk On Water series, Bethany Joy challenges us to stop waiting until everything is neatly resolved before we share our stories. God is present while we’re walking through the storm, and our testimony is powerful in the moment.

Discover how to create safe, authentic spaces where you and others can share openly, connect deeply, and walk through life together.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook to help you notice God’s presence in your everyday life: ThriveWithBethany.com

The disciples already knew Jesus was the Son of God — but witnessing Him and Peter walk back to the boat in the middle of the storm confirmed it in a powerful way.

Your testimony is happening right now, not just when everything is tied up with a bow.

In this series finale, you’ll learn:

• Why your story is just as valuable in progress as it is in hindsight

• How to identify safe people to share with while you’re still in the storm

• The importance of creating spaces for real, authentic connection

• Why practicing relationships well transforms how we live and lead

  
  

0:00 - Welcome & who this episode is for
1:02 - Recap of the Walk On Water series
1:33 - The disciples’ response: “Truly, you are the Son of God”
2:00 - Your testimony is unfolding now, not just after the storm
2:57 - The power of sharing your story before it’s resolved
4:09 - Finding and being safe people in relationships
5:10 - Permission to pause and go deeper in Scripture
6:01 - Invitation to TIP Community Groups
6:36 - Closing encouragement: Share your testimony now

3 Takeaways:

1. Your testimony is most powerful when shared in real-time.

2. Safe, authentic relationships allow us to walk through storms together.

3. Practicing relationships well means being with people without trying to “fix” them.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook at ThriveWithBethany.com and learn to notice God’s fingerprints in your everyday moments.
Learn more about TIP Community Groups at BethanyJoy.fyi

When Jesus lifted Peter out of the water, the storm didn’t stop right away.

In this episode of the Walk On Water series, Bethany Joy shares how we often walk back to the boat with Jesus while the waves are still crashing. Relationships can be restored, but the storms around us may still rage on.

Through her own real-life story of a speaking competition that didn’t go as planned, Bethany reveals how God uses unexpected outcomes to form deeper connections, guide our journey, and grow our trust in Him.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook to help you see God’s fingerprints in your everyday moments: ThriveWithBethany.com

The end of the storm doesn’t always come when we think it will. Sometimes we have to walk with Jesus, through the storm, before we see the calm.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• Why Jesus may restore you before calming the storm

• How to walk forward when circumstances haven’t changed yet

• What a speaking competition taught Bethany about God’s timing

• How to value the relationships God brings in unexpected seasons

0:00 - Welcome and series recap
2:24 - Jesus and Peter walk back to the boat… in the middle of the storm
3:52 - Realization: the storm didn’t stop immediately
4:46 - What it means for our relationships today
5:13 - A personal story from a speaking competition
8:07 - When God’s plan doesn’t match your expectations
9:33 - The relationships God brings through the storm
10:00 - Free Interactive Appreciation Workbook invitation

3 Key Takeaways:

1. Sometimes restoration happens before the storm ends.

2. God uses unexpected outcomes to create life-changing relationships.

3. Walking through storms with others strengthens connection and trust.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook and begin noticing God’s presence in your everyday life: ThriveWithBethany.com

When Peter began to sink, Jesus immediately reached out His hand.

In this Walk On Water series episode, Bethany Joy dives into that powerful moment — and how it mirrors our own lives when we’re drowning in hurt, unforgiveness, or the weight of broken relationships.

Discover why forgiveness is less about the other person and more about your own freedom, and how grabbing hold of Jesus’s hand can pull you out of the depths into a life of hope and peace.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook to help you see God’s fingerprints in your everyday moments: ThriveWithBethany.com

Forgiveness can be one of the most gut-wrenching and healing steps we take in relationships. In this episode, Bethany shares:

• The moment Peter grabbed Jesus’s hand — and what it means for us

• Why forgiveness is for you, not just the other person

• How holding on to hurt keeps you under the water

• Practical encouragement for taking Jesus’s hand when it feels impossible

This conversation is for anyone stuck in resentment, fear, or relational pain — and ready to walk in freedom again.

0:00 - Welcome and series recap
1:28 - Peter sinks… and Jesus reaches out His hand
3:08 - How this moment mirrors our own sinking seasons
4:35 - Forgiveness as a deeply personal process
5:48 - Why forgiveness is for you, not the other person
7:02 - Trusting Jesus to lift you out of the water
8:12 - Learning from underwater seasons
8:49 - Choosing to walk above the water again
9:55 - Letting go of the false control unforgiveness offers
;10:48 - Free workbook invitation

3 Takeaways:

1. Forgiveness is about your freedom — not their worthiness.

2. Holding on to hurt keeps you under the water longer.

3. Jesus is always reaching out His hand… but you have to choose to take it.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook and start noticing God’s presence in your daily moments: ThriveWithBethany.com

Peter stepped out of the boat with courage — but moments later, he began to sink.

In this Walk On Water series episode, Bethany Joy unpacks what it means to take bold steps even when there’s a real risk of failure… and how to trust Jesus when the waves crash over you.

With a funny and relatable real-life story from her ministry days, Bethany shows how God can meet us in the “oh no” moments — and why sinking isn’t the end, but an invitation to deeper faith and growth.

Get your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook to help you recognize God’s presence in the middle of life’s unpredictable moments: ThriveWithBethany.com

We’ve all had them — moments when we take a leap of faith, only to feel the bottom drop out. In this episode, Bethany dives into:

• Why sinking moments are often part of God’s plan for growth

• The importance of responding well in the moment instead of clinging to control

• A hilarious (and slightly cringe) story from her youth ministry days

• The powerful reminder that Jesus is with you — whether you’re walking on water or swallowing it

Wherever you are — still in the boat, mid-step on the water, or sinking — this conversation will help you take the next step with courage and trust.

0:00 - Welcome and introduction
1:04 - Recap of the Walk On Water series so far
2:08 - The moment Peter began to sink
3:14 - Life and leadership in the unpredictable “in-between” moments
4:09 - A real-life ministry story gone sideways
6:40 - Learning to respond well when things don’t go as planned
8:37 - Trusting Jesus even when you might sink
9:39 - Reflection: Where are you — in the boat, on the water, or sinking?
9:53 - Encouragement to take the next step of faith
9:59 - Free workbook invitation

3 Key Takeaways:

1. Sinking moments aren’t failure — they’re opportunities to trust Jesus more deeply.

2. Leadership means staying present and steady when the unexpected happens.

3. Faith often requires stepping into the unknown without every contingency plan in place.

Download your FREE Interactive Appreciation Workbook and start noticing God’s presence in the middle of life’s unpredictable moments: ThriveWithBethany.com