"Like Hoobastank...but doesn't suck" are some immortal words a friend of mine said about Anberlin and I will never forget that. I was pleased as punch to tell Stephen that over our internet connection conversation (to be clear, I like Hoobastank). We get in deep with the feeling of being an outcast, the difference between "shows" and "concerts" and the business side of music. It's a wide ranging discussion and think you will find some value in here. Enjoy! 

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