In this interview with return guest Steven Snider (AKA Recluse) of The  Farm podcast and Visupview blog, we cover a wide range of occult and  para-political topics, centering around Kenneth Grant’s influence on  American occult circles in the Midwest. We get into deep discussion of  Bate Cabal, NEMA, Moundbuilder magic, and more. Then, partly inspired by  chance, we get into a fascinating conversation on Steven’s latest area  of research, the American Gifted program. And somehow… it all finds  sync-connection in the latest season of Netflix nostalgia-magic working  Stranger Things.

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