Tom and Heron start on a long list of topics. Tom introduces the comic book project as it continues to evolve. Heron and Tom discuss the lesser known substances of legal means and some that are less than legal. Tom likes Heron's photos through the ages. And somehow the story changes direction. They talk about friends. Heron raises luck versus survival smarts. Tom talks about air travel. A dream describes Tom's future as he becomes an idea criminal. Brady Manning is a Stone-ian hero. They discuss Heron's potential name change this year. They explore bring psychologists into the PTSD project.

Heron defines his year in advance and how he's taking a year off to focus his vision. Tom raises the monkey and discusses some truck he has with Kickstarter. They talk about breaking the ceiling of poor expectations. Tom puts forward the idea that a reality show may be an uncharted vehicle versus Facebook. They explore the use of Gendo for PTSD treatment and returned service people in general. Heron likes Sunset Blush and sativa. (Editorial note: most times I cut the wine glass conversation however it is a theme of this recording so it is left in.) Heron talks about those pierced youth. They return to the topic of reality television. Tom explains how to avoid drone strikes thanks to a group in Yemen. Heron and Tom disagree about H+'s role in Tom's death. Tom asks if Heron has considered cat ownership. From cat ownership to cat houses, the conversation digresses. They cover monkey chemistry without external chemicals. Tom asks about Heron's potential retirement and the parts of the monkey that need replacing. They move on to discuss what dating means and cohabiting. Heron acknowledges Stone Ape is the sole means of getting a Stone fix through 2013.

Heron starts by talking about how he can be more obnoxious. Heron defines his year in terms of physical existence. Tom raises guns as an experience. They move into comics and Kickstarters. Somehow the Popelessness of current times is discussed with regards to the lunar calendar. Heron talks about the thirty year holiday phenomenon. Tom raises the POW versus war participants in terms of effect. They explore the kinds of experiences Tom had in Vegas and South Australia. Tom asks Heron if he has listened to the audio with biologists and the current state of Noble Ape including Tom's regrets. They talk about using Heron's language analysis for assisting with suffering. Heron talks about his life through his later 20s. Tom raises Heron's Est training and talks a little about family monkey business. Tom brings up marriage as being a thing of peace. Heron discusses what he needs in the future. Tom asks if a book by professional clown could have an impact. The conversation moves to Steve Jobs and Apple.

Tom and Heron resume the discussion talking about fourteen months of missing history. Tom starts with the deconstruction of whether he does artificial life still having attended a conference with other people who claim to do artificial life (Tom mis-spoke, one of the artificial conferences is called GECCO). Tom asks about the passing of the dog in Heron's life. Tom talks about reading old magazines. (Tom mis-speaks - Hitler's architect is Albert Speer not Hess. The interview was with Speer.) Tom contrasts old media with new media. Heron talks about his standard recording format and they retell a story that had previously been censored from Stone Ape. Heron works through why Tom returns to a book and they explore why Heron needs a co-author. There is a brief digression into the bad section of town. They explore the spaces Heron has camped to find some interesting people. They restart the recording and discuss the notes and reviews for the show. Tom talks about exploring Timothy Leary's book collection. Tom concludes with the promise that fourteen months shouldn't pass before the next recording.

Tom mention he has moved. He asks about Heron's general progress over the past months. Tom talks about applied Stonean theory and the brutalizing effects of change. They discuss technology perturbing accents. Heron provides an update. No more Talkshoe for Tom but he's still the other when you need more track to set you back. Tom reflects on repressed memories. Heron raises the mystery vortex podcast (Editor's note: this continues to be roughly sixty percent of all Heron's downloads circa March 2012).

Tom asks about Heron's simplifying life. Tom offers some discussion on dry survivalism. Tom floats the idea of fifteen years ago to towels. They discuss the idea that writing is the degrading present. Heron riffs on the metamorphosis of reality. Tom talks about some new purchases. They digress into the possibility of secondary experiences. Tom returns to the idea that apartment life sucks and a decade and a half of dots. Heron poses the fact that he thought Tom was full of something previously. They explore a mystery under the dryer. Tom asks Heron if there is anything novel going on with his discussions. (Tom misses the date for the start of this podcast it was June 2010.) Tom floats the idea of everyman and it works into some discussion of LM. They conclude with an update on the terror feral feline.

Tom asks about Heron's health and the learning community project. They discuss internal monologues in simulation. Tom raises the pathology of podcasting that digresses into a discussion of post-apocalyptic education. Tom talks about the movement to extreme militarism and the necessary counter-narrative. Heron and Tom disagree on the positive nature of the Egyptian military. Tom bridges a difficult question of what to do with an old friend with long narration about death. Someone stupid uses the term, self, and the rest writes itself. Heron asks about Tom's listening to Heron's discussions and somehow the discussion of education returns. Tom explains why he can't write a book with Heron.

Heron starts the discussion talking about music, his health and talking. Tom provides updates on his writing. They talk about the next laptop and views into technology. Tom offers turning down sponsors and space-aged technology. Heron mentions a new group he has joined. They digress to an extended discussion on education. They explore free-wheeling. Tom accidentally raises the topic of marriage. Tom proposes the bleak duality and how to survive a power outage. They conclude with a future topic.

Heron starts asking about a special day. Tom offers two films for discussion and how Heron can use his knowledge for good. Tom also decompresses his writing for good. They talk about Heron's ever-changing format. Tom links Jeopardy with snuff. The deconstruct some marginal films. Heron returns to Tom's analysis of his other podcast. They conclude with the pathology of it all.

Heron starts by talking about what is on television. Tom recounts his time in the San Francisco Bay Area and finally launching the 1993 writing, Field of Chaos. Tom explains to Heron discovering listeners in real-time and more on his Bay Area trip. They explore the Social Network. Tom asks about the changes in Heron's discussion. Tom asks about Heron's changes in thinking on his future work. They talk about a mutual intensity and sleep. Oh and fieldofchaos.com, that's fieldofchaos.com...