Stop, Collaborate, and Listen

Stop, Collaborate, and Listen

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  • Ep 58: Beyond PCOS: Why the PMOS Rebrand Matters for Diagnosis and Treatment w/Megan Miller, MS, RD

    What if the name we’ve been using for PCOS has actually been part of the problem? We are so excited to chat with one of our favorite RD’s to talk about the rebrand from PCOs to PMOS, and what this could mean for how we understand, diagnose, and treat this complex condition.

    PCOS has historically been framed primarily around reproductive health and fertility—but there’s much more to the picture. PMOS aims to better reflect the hormonal, metabolic, and reproductive factors involved, while also opening the door to a broader understanding of who is affected and what supportive care can look like.

    We dig into why the name matters, how lived experience can inform healthcare reform, and why moving beyond weight-centered approaches could lead to better care. We also explore the complicated intersection of PMOS, eating disorders, insulin resistance, diet culture, weight bias, and the pressure to pursue weight loss as the default treatment strategy.

    Things We Yap About:

    • Why PCOS is being reconsidered as a name and framework
    • What PMOS means and how it broadens the conversation
    • The hormonal, metabolic, and reproductive components of PMOS
    • Why PCOS/PMOS is about more than fertility
    • How body diversity can contribute to missed or delayed diagnoses
    • The importance of early diagnosis across the lifespan
    • Misconceptions about insulin resistance and weight
    • The connection between PMOS, eating disorders, and disordered eating
    • How diet culture and weight bias can influence medical care
    • Why treatment doesn't have to center on weight loss
    • Supplements, emerging research, and ongoing questions

    Resources & Mentions:

    • Megan’s S1 PCOS Episode
    • PCOS Nutrition Center
    • Rene Jay & Women’s Health Series on TikTok
    • Ovasitol Inositol Powder Supplement
    • pcos.nutritionist
    • pcosnutrition

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    49 min
  • Ep 57: Orthorexia in Men: When ‘Healthy Eating’ Becomes an Eating Disorder w/Jason Wood

    What happens when “healthy eating” becomes so rigid that food stops being joyful—and starts controlling your life?

    In this episode, we’re joined by Jason Wood, Executive Director of ANAD, for an honest conversation about orthorexia, men’s body image, eating disorders, vulnerability, and recovery.

    Jason shares his personal experience with orthorexia and what it was like to recognize that his relationship with food had become increasingly rigid and consuming. We talk about how diet culture can shape men’s relationships with food and their bodies, why eating disorders in men can be difficult to recognize, and how the pursuit of “health” can sometimes become another way an eating disorder hides in plain sight.

    We also dig into something that can be especially complicated for men: vulnerability. Jason talks about the pressure many men experience to keep pain to themselves, the power of telling our stories, and how peer support and community can create safer spaces for people to seek help

    Things We Yap About:

    • What orthorexia can look like—and why it can be difficult to recognize
    • How diet culture influences men’s body image and relationships with food
    • Why eating disorders in men are often overlooked or misunderstood
    • The connection between “healthy eating,” rigidity, and disordered behaviors
    • Masculinity and the pressure to keep emotional pain to yourself
    • The role of vulnerability and storytelling in recovery
    • The importance of peer support and community care
    • Creating safer spaces for men to talk about eating disorders

    Eating disorders don't always look like restriction, weight loss, or a desire to be smaller. Sometimes they can hide behind the pursuit of health, fitness, discipline, or “clean” eating. And sometimes, finding the language to talk about what's happening is the first step toward getting support.

    Resources & Mentions:

    • ANAD: https://anad.org/
    • ANAD Book Corner: https://anad.org/learning-library-old/book-recommendations/ 
    • Slip: Life in the Middle of Eating Disorder Recovery by Mallory Tenore Tarpley
    • Starving for Survival: One Man’s Journey with Orthorexia by Jason Wood
    • Running in Silence: My Drive for Perfection and the Eating Disorder That Fed It by Rachel Steil

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    1 hr
  • Ep 56: Two Men Share Their Eating Disorder Recovery Stories w/ Elijah Smith & Derek Savick-Hesser

    What does an eating disorder look like when you don't see yourself represented in the stories you're told about eating disorders? Today, we are joined by Elijah Smith and Derek Savick-Hesser for an honest conversation about eating disorders, body image, mental health, masculinity, queerness, and recovery.

    Elijah and Derek share their personal experiences with disordered eating and eating disorder recovery, including the complicated relationship between gastrointestinal issues, food fears, ARFID, and body image. They also discuss what it was like to seek help as men, the importance of receiving a diagnosis that makes sense of your experience, and how community and representation can change the recovery process.

    From theater and the arts to queer community and supportive relationships, we explore the many forms that healing can take—and why recovery doesn't have to mean navigating these experiences alone.


    Things We Yap About:

    • Men's experiences with eating disorders and body image
    • How GI issues can complicate relationships with food and eating
    • ARFID, food fears, and the intersection of physical and mental health
    • The impact of masculinity and societal expectations on eating disorders
    • Queerness, body image, and identity
    • What it can be like to seek eating disorder treatment as a man
    • The role of community, representation, and being seen
    • How theater and the arts can support healing and self-acceptance
    • The importance of patience and self-compassion in recovery
    • What men struggling with body image or disordered eating should know about asking for help

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    58 min
  • Ep 55: Rethinking ARFID: Neurodivergence, Harm Reduction, and Food Access with Kevin Green

    ARFID isn’t just about "picky eating." But avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder is far more complex—and understanding it requires us to look beyond rigid diagnostic criteria and one-size-fits-all approaches to treatment.

    In this episode, we're joined by Kevin Green for a conversation about ARFID, neurodivergence, queerness, harm reduction, food access, and the limitations of traditional eating disorder treatment. We explore what ARFID can look like, why sensory needs and food preferences deserve to be taken seriously, and how clinicians and caregivers can support people without turning treatment into another experience of lost autonomy.

    We yap about food hierarchies, trauma-informed care, the limitations of the DSM, and why understanding someone as an intersectional human being—not simply a diagnosis—matters.


    Things We Yap About:

    • What ARFID is and how it differs from "picky eating"
    • The different presentations of ARFID
    • The relationship between ARFID and neurodivergence
    • How trauma and lived experience can influence eating
    • Why the DSM doesn't always capture the full picture
    • ARFID and the intersection of queerness and neurodivergence
    • The limitations of traditional eating disorder treatment models
    • Harm reduction approaches to eating disorder recovery
    • Food hierarchies and the moralization of food
    • Supporting autonomy and self-advocacy
    • Practical ways to make eating more accessible
    • Food safety and access for marginalized communities
    • Trauma-informed and noncarceral approaches to care


    Resources & Mentions:

    • ENOF Powder: https://simplyenof.com/ / use code kevin15 for 15% off your order
    • Finch App: https://finchcare.com/
    • Hurts So Good: The Science and Culture of Pain on Purpose by Leigh Cowart
    • RDs for Neurodiversity: https://www.rdsforneurodiversity.com/ 
    • Harm Reduction Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-9-harm-reduction-in-ed-care-controversial-or-compassionate/id1830467596?i=1000727474010 

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    1 hr 35 min
  • Ep 54: Eating Disorders in Men: Recovery, Masculinity, and Mental Health with Eric Pothen

    Eating disorders are often portrayed as a problem that primarily affects women, and that stereotype can leave countless men feeling invisible, misunderstood, and unable to recognize that they need help.

    In the first episode of our Men's Health and Eating Disorders series, we're joined by Eric Pothen, advocate and creator behind Embracing You, to explore men's experiences with eating disorders, body image, masculinity, and recovery.

    Eric shares both his lived experience and professional insights into why eating disorders in men are so often missed or misunderstood. Together, we discuss how gender stereotypes can impact recognition, diagnosis, treatment, and recovery—and why creating more inclusive conversations about eating disorders matters. We also explore the role of social media, masculinity norms, LGBTQ+ experiences, vulnerability, and representation in shaping men's relationships with their bodies and mental health.

    In this episode, we yap about:
    • Why eating disorders in men are often overlooked or misdiagnosed
    • Common misconceptions about men and eating disorders
    • How societal expectations around masculinity impact help-seeking
    • Body image concerns and social media pressures
    • The role of vulnerability and emotional expression in recovery
    • Less frequently discussed eating disorder behaviors, including chewing and spitting
    • Barriers men may face when accessing eating disorder treatment
    • LGBTQ+ experiences, body ideals, and body image
    • How clinicians and caregivers can create more welcoming treatment environments
    • Why representation and community matter in recovery
    • The importance of hope and harm reduction

    Resources & Mentions:

    • Instagram: @ericpothen
    • Website: Eric Pothen
    • Podcast: Embracing You


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    1 hr 34 min
  • Ep 53: Body Grief: Reimagining Body Image & Self-Trust w/Bri Campos & Cilla Moore-Massey

    What if some of what we experience as body image distress is actually grief? In this episode, we're joined by Bri Campos of Body Image With Bri and Cilla Moore-Massey for a conversation about body grief, body image, trauma, and what it means to build a different relationship with your body in a culture obsessed with appearance.

    We explore the many ways body grief can show up—including grieving changes in our bodies, identities, abilities, or the ways we once moved through the world. We also unpack why body image is about much more than whether you like what you see in the mirror.

    We talk about radical body acceptance, self-trust, somatic and embodiment work, systemic oppression, fatphobia, and the complicated process of taking up space in a world that often tells us to make ourselves smaller.

    In this episode, we yap about:
    • What body grief is and the different ways it can show up
    • Why body image is about perception, thoughts, feelings, and behaviors—not just appearance
    • How trauma and lived experience shape our relationship with our bodies
    • The difference between body confidence, body acceptance, and body relationship
    • Why healing doesn't require loving your body every day
    • How diet culture and societal expectations contribute to body grief
    • The role of systemic oppression, fatphobia, and intersectionality in body image
    • Why community, witnessing, and support can be powerful parts of healing
    • How somatic and embodiment practices can help build safety and self-trust
    • What it can mean to take up space as an act of autonomy and resistance

    Resources & Mentions:

    • Bri's 7 Step Guide
    • Bri’s Website
    • Bri’s Podcast
    • Bri’s Instagram

    • Cilla’s Website
    • Cilla’s Instagram

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    1 hr 23 min
  • Ep 52: Diet Culture Dumpster Fire: Food Safety, Nicotine & Public Health (Teaser)

    Today's episode is a little different. We are giving you a sneak peek at our monthly YouTube Series: Diet Culture Dumpster Fire!

    This month, we dig into food safety outbreaks, the rebranding of nicotine as a "wellness" tool, military policies around gender-affirming care and hormone testing, and the broader systems that allow misinformation to spread faster than evidence.

    Rather than focusing on individual choices, we explore the bigger questions: Who benefits from these narratives? What happens when ideology outweighs science? And how can we become more thoughtful consumers of health information?

    In this episode, we yap about:
    • The latest Cyclospora outbreak and what it reveals about food safety systems
    • Why foodborne illness isn't simply about "making better choices"
    • How funding cuts impact food safety and public health
    • The growing trend of marketing nicotine as a wellness or productivity tool
    • Military policies around gender-affirming care and testosterone testing
    • Why quick fixes often distract us from addressing systemic problems
    • How diet culture and wellness misinformation thrive in environments of fear and uncertainty

    Our goal isn't to tell you what to think—it's to help you ask better questions when the next wellness headline inevitably lands in your feed.

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    46 min
  • Ep 51: Why Early Intervention Matters in Eating Disorder Recovery w/Kate Fisch of Selah House

    When it comes to eating disorders, waiting to get help can have serious consequences, but accessing the right treatment isn't always straightforward. Today, we're joined by Kate Fisch, CEO of Selah House, to discuss why early intervention matters, what makes specialized eating disorder treatment different, and how clinicians, families, and treatment teams can work together to improve outcomes. Together, we explore how clinicians determine the appropriate level of support, common barriers to accessing care, and why specialized treatment can make a meaningful difference in recovery outcomes. We also discuss treatment standards, accreditation, communication between providers, and why early intervention and medical stabilization are essential parts of effective eating disorder care.

    In this episode, we yap about:
    • The staircase of eating disorder treatment, including outpatient, IOP, PHP, residential, and inpatient care
    • How clinicians determine when a higher level of care is needed
    • Why early intervention improves recovery outcomes
    • Common barriers to accessing specialized eating disorder treatment
    • The importance of treatment standards and accreditation
    • Why communication across treatment teams matters
    • What families, clients, and clinicians should know when navigating treatment decisions

    Resources & Mentions:

    If you're new to eating disorder treatment levels, check out our earlier episode on the spectrum of care. 

    • https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-5-from-outpatient-to-inpatient-understanding-the/id1830467596?i=1000724003882
    • REDC Consortium https://redcconsortium.org/

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    • Selah House selahhouse.org
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    55 min
  • Ep 50: How Your Relationship With Movement Evolves (and Why That's a Good Thing)

    How did your earliest experiences with movement shape the way you think about exercise today?

    It’s the final episode of our Summer Movement Series, and we reflect on our own movement journeys. From childhood sports and college cheerleading to careers in fitness, eating disorder treatment, and eventually discovering a more compassionate relationship with movement, we dive into it all! We talk honestly about body image, perfectionism, overexercise, identity, and what it has looked like to move away from performance and toward curiosity, flexibility, and body trust. This isn't an episode about finding the "perfect" workout. It's about giving yourself permission to let your relationship with movement evolve.

    In this episode, we yap about:

    • How childhood sports shaped our relationships with movement
    • College, body image, and the pressures that changed everything
    • Working in the fitness industry while navigating our own relationships with exercise
    • The impact of eating disorder recovery on movement
    • Why curiosity is more sustainable than rigid fitness rules
    • Living in the "gray space" instead of all-or-nothing thinking
    • Building a relationship with movement that supports mental health

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    1 hr 35 min
  • Ep 49:Sports Psychology Meets Nutrition: Body Image, RED-S, & Recovery w/Lauren Link & Kelsey Dawson

    What happens when the pursuit of peak performance starts to come at the expense of an athlete's physical and mental health? Today, we sit down with Dr. Kelsey Dawson, sports psychologist, and Lauren Link, sports dietitian, to explore the intersection of athlete mental health, sports nutrition, body image, and eating disorder prevention.

    We unpack the pressures athletes face at every level—from high school and college sports to elite competition—and discuss how coaches, parents, clinicians, and athletes can create healthier performance environments. Plus, we dive into RED-S (Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport), athlete identity, performance metrics, and why body weight is often one of the least helpful indicators of athletic success.

    Connect with Kelsey and Lauren:

    • Dawson Counseling & Performance
    • Lauren’s IG: LinktoNutrition

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    We talk all about:
    • Why athletes are at increased risk for eating disorders and disordered eating
    • What RED-S is and why every athlete should know about it
    • The connection between nutrition, mental health, and athletic performance
    • How body image pressures impact athletes across all sports
    • Why coaches should focus on performance—not weight
    • The role of sports psychology in building resilient athletes
    • Supporting athletes through retirement, injury, and identity shifts
    • How parents, coaches, and clinicians can create healthier sport cultures

    Resources & Mentions:

    • American Sports & Performance Dietitians Association (ASPDA)
    • National Alliance for Eating Disorders
    • The Healthy Former Athlete by Lauren Link
    • Clinical Counseling Sports Psychology Association (CCSPA)

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    1 hr 13 min

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Stop, Collaborate, and Listen is your go-to podcast for real talk about eating disorder treatment and recovery. Hosted by a collaborative crew of dietitians, therapists, and recovery coaches, we dive…