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When it comes to eating disorders, waiting to get help can have serious consequences, but accessing the right treatment isn't always straightforward. Today, we're joined by Kate Fisch, CEO of Selah House, to discuss why early intervention matters, what makes specialized eating disorder treatment different, and how clinicians, families, and treatment teams can work together to improve outcomes. Together, we explore how clinicians determine the appropriate level of support, common barriers to accessing care, and why specialized treatment can make a meaningful difference in recovery outcomes. We also discuss treatment standards, accreditation, communication between providers, and why early intervention and medical stabilization are essential parts of effective eating disorder care.

• The staircase of eating disorder treatment, including outpatient, IOP, PHP, residential, and inpatient care
• How clinicians determine when a higher level of care is needed
• Why early intervention improves recovery outcomes
• Common barriers to accessing specialized eating disorder treatment
• The importance of treatment standards and accreditation
• Why communication across treatment teams matters
• What families, clients, and clinicians should know when navigating treatment decisions

Resources & Mentions:

If you're new to eating disorder treatment levels, check out our earlier episode on the spectrum of care. 

• https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-5-from-outpatient-to-inpatient-understanding-the/id1830467596?i=1000724003882
• REDC Consortium https://redcconsortium.org/

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How did your earliest experiences with movement shape the way you think about exercise today?

It’s the final episode of our Summer Movement Series, and we reflect on our own movement journeys. From childhood sports and college cheerleading to careers in fitness, eating disorder treatment, and eventually discovering a more compassionate relationship with movement, we dive into it all! We talk honestly about body image, perfectionism, overexercise, identity, and what it has looked like to move away from performance and toward curiosity, flexibility, and body trust. This isn't an episode about finding the "perfect" workout. It's about giving yourself permission to let your relationship with movement evolve.

In this episode, we yap about:

• How childhood sports shaped our relationships with movement
• College, body image, and the pressures that changed everything
• Working in the fitness industry while navigating our own relationships with exercise
• The impact of eating disorder recovery on movement
• Why curiosity is more sustainable than rigid fitness rules
• Living in the "gray space" instead of all-or-nothing thinking
• Building a relationship with movement that supports mental health

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What happens when the pursuit of peak performance starts to come at the expense of an athlete's physical and mental health? Today, we sit down with Dr. Kelsey Dawson, sports psychologist, and Lauren Link, sports dietitian, to explore the intersection of athlete mental health, sports nutrition, body image, and eating disorder prevention.

We unpack the pressures athletes face at every level—from high school and college sports to elite competition—and discuss how coaches, parents, clinicians, and athletes can create healthier performance environments. Plus, we dive into RED-S (Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport), athlete identity, performance metrics, and why body weight is often one of the least helpful indicators of athletic success.

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• Dawson Counseling & Performance
• Lauren’s IG: LinktoNutrition

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• Why athletes are at increased risk for eating disorders and disordered eating
• What RED-S is and why every athlete should know about it
• The connection between nutrition, mental health, and athletic performance
• How body image pressures impact athletes across all sports
• Why coaches should focus on performance—not weight
• The role of sports psychology in building resilient athletes
• Supporting athletes through retirement, injury, and identity shifts
• How parents, coaches, and clinicians can create healthier sport cultures

Resources & Mentions:

• American Sports & Performance Dietitians Association (ASPDA)
• National Alliance for Eating Disorders
• The Healthy Former Athlete by Lauren Link
• Clinical Counseling Sports Psychology Association (CCSPA)

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Episode Summary: Do you have to be flexible, thin, or "good at yoga" to step onto a yoga mat? In this episode, we're joined by Yoga Six Instructors Liz Retana and Charlie Dewes to unpack some of the biggest myths about yoga and explore what the practice can actually offer. From challenging stereotypes about who belongs in yoga spaces to creating more accessible and inclusive movement experiences, this conversation invites you to rethink what yoga can look and feel like.

Connect with Liz, Charlie, and Yoga Six:

• @theyellingyogi
• @yogasix_fishers 
• @yogasixindy 
• Charlie Loves Yoga

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• Why flexibility isn't a requirement for practicing yoga
• Common myths about yoga and who it is "for"
• The connection between yoga, nervous system regulation, and mental health
• How inclusive language helps create safer movement spaces
• The evolution of yoga from achieving perfect shapes to exploring how movement feels
• Why community and belonging matter in movement spaces
• How yoga can support body trust and a healthier relationship with movement

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Is training for a marathon, long-distance ride, or endurance event without compromising eating disorder recovery?

In this episode, we’re joined by Amy Jordan, LCSW, and Sierra Siebenlist to explore the realities of endurance sports, intentional fueling, and navigating movement during recovery. We discuss common misconceptions about endurance racing, why “surviving” an event isn’t the same as thriving, and how consistent fueling can dramatically improve both performance and well-being. Amy and Sierra also share practical strategies for runners and cyclists, along with honest conversations about readiness, community support, and balancing training with mental health.

Connect with Amy and Sierra: 

• Peak Wellness Therapy: https://www.peak-wellness-therapy.com/ 
• @peakwellnesstherapy: https://www.instagram.com/peakwellnesstherapy/ 

• @smackridesbikes: https://www.instagram.com/smackridesbikes/ 
• @oliverwinerycyclingteam: https://www.instagram.com/oliverwinerycyclingteam/ 

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• What we talk about:
  Why endurance sports require more fuel than most people realize
• How to fuel before, during, and after long rides and runs
• The difference between exercising in recovery and exercising from an eating disorder
• Why intentionality matters when returning to movement
• How community support can improve both recovery and training
• Practical fueling tips for endurance athletes

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What if movement felt more like solving puzzles than burning calories? Today, we talk with Hayden Thomas from North Mass Boulder to explore why indoor climbing has become one of the fastest-growing forms of movement, and why it's about so much more than strength.

We talk about how bouldering encourages curiosity, resilience, confidence, and connection. Whether you've never stepped foot in a climbing gym or you're looking for a new way to reconnect with movement, this conversation offers a refreshing perspective on what it means to move your body.

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• https://northmassboulder.com
• IG: @northmassboulder 

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Things we chat about:

• Why climbing is really about problem-solving, not perfection
• The surprising mental health benefits of indoor climbing
• How climbing builds self-trust and confidence
• Why climbing is accessible to people of all body types and experience levels
• The importance of community in movement and recovery
• How North Mass Boulder is creating an inclusive climbing culture
• Beginner tips for anyone interested in trying bouldering

Resources & Mentions:
• North Massive Competition: https://northmassboulder.com/events
• Youth America Grand Prix: https://yagp.org
• Prana: https://prana.com
• Impact Climbing: https://impactclimbing.com

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The problem isn't Ariana Grande. In this episode, unpack the online conversation surrounding Ariana Grande to explore the bigger issues of body image, eating disorders, celebrity culture, and systemic oppression. We discuss why public commentary about women's bodies is so normalized, how social media fuels unrealistic beauty standards, and why eating disorders cannot be identified by appearance alone. From the harmful myth of being "not sick enough" to the historical roots of fatphobia and weight stigma, this conversation challenges the narratives that shape how we think about health, recovery, and whose bodies are considered worthy of care.

Content Note: This episode explores eating disorders, body image, weight stigma, BMI, and includes brief discussion of eating disorder behaviors in the context of education and recovery. We know these conversations can bring up a lot—take what serves you, skip what doesn't, and come back when you're ready.

Takeaways

• Eating disorders affect people of every body size and cannot be diagnosed by appearance.
• Social media and celebrity culture reinforce unrealistic body standards and harmful comparisons.
• Weight stigma and fatphobia have systemic roots that continue to influence healthcare and treatment.
• Waiting until someone "looks sick enough" can delay life-saving care.
• Recovery begins when we challenge harmful cultural narratives—not just individual behaviors.

Resources & Mentions

• How Malnourishment Impacts Brain Functioning
• Ashantis Jones Reel
• What If We're Not Actually Worried About Ariana Grande by Liz Plank

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Episode Summary: Is pilates really just for thin women in matching sets? Vanessa Hutchins, founder of MVMT House, joins us today to explore what it means to build a joyful, inclusive relationship with movement. We discuss the evolution of Pilates, common misconceptions, and why movement should be accessible to all bodies, ages, and experience levels. Vanessa shares how MVMT House prioritizes community, connection, and fun, while creating a space where people can move in ways that feel supportive and sustainable. Whether you're Pilates-curious or looking to reconnect with movement, this conversation offers a refreshing alternative to traditional fitness culture.

Take advantage of MVMT House intro offer: 2 weeks of unlimited classes for $45.

Connect with Vanessa and MVMT House: 

• https://www.mvmthouseindy.com/ 
• IG:@mvmthouse 

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Takeaways:

• Movement is more sustainable when it feels enjoyable, supportive, and accessible
• Pilates is for all bodies, not just experienced athletes or fitness enthusiasts
• Community and connection can be powerful motivators for movement
• Variety and flexibility help create a long-term relationship with exercise
• Movement doesn't need to focus on changing your body to improve your well-being

Resources & Mentions:

• Daisy Bar: https://www.daisybarindy.com/ 
• Amelia’s: https://ameliasbread.com/ 
• North Mass Boulder: https://www.northmassboulder.com/ 

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✨ Episode Summary: Friendship doesn’t happen by accident. It happens when we choose to show up. Our Summer Movement Series continues with FrancesMary Loughead, founder of BFF Indy, a community helping women build authentic friendships that feel more connected to where they live. This conversation expands the idea of movement beyond exercise and into community, connection, and belonging.  We talk about why making friends as an adult can feel so challenging, how social anxiety and vulnerability can get in the way, and why belonging is essential for mental and physical health. 

Join your first BFF Indy event by attending a weekly walk! Happening every Monday, April - October, in 9 cities across central Indianapolis!

Connect with BFF Indy: 

• BFF Indy Website
• BFF Indy Community Chats
• BFF Indy Events & Weekly Walks
• @bff.indy

🧰 Takeaways:

• Adult friendship takes intention, vulnerability, and showing up
• Movement and shared experiences can create meaningful connection
• Community and belonging are essential parts of well-being
• Low-pressure spaces can make building friendships feel more accessible
• It’s never too late to find your people

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✨ Episode Summary: What if movement was about joy—not punishment? We are joined by Abbey Griffith, owner and founder of Clarity Fitness, to explore what eating disorder-informed fitness can look like in practice. We discuss how movement can support recovery, mental health, and body autonomy when it's rooted in joy rather than punishment. Abbey shares the philosophy behind Clarity Fitness, including how thoughtful studio design, inclusive coaching, and collaboration with healthcare providers help create a safer and more supportive fitness experience. This conversation challenges common fitness narratives and offers a vision of movement that is sustainable, accessible, and grounded in long-term well-being.

Take advantage of Clarity Fitness’s On-demand Joyful Movement Studio: Use COLLAB15 for 15% off lifetime access to Clarity Online 

Connect with Abbey & Clarity Fitness: 

• https://www.clarityfitness.com/
• IG:@claritydecatur 

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🧰 Takeaways:

• Movement can support recovery when it is rooted in joy, choice, and autonomy
• Eating disorder-informed fitness prioritizes safety, flexibility, and sustainability
• Fitness spaces can play an important role in supporting mental health and recovery
• Collaboration between fitness professionals and healthcare providers improves care
• A healthy relationship with movement is built over time, not through punishment or perfection

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