Find full show notes and links at: https://gocamp.pro/ownerspod/staff-resentment

We can’t just keep saying “we know this is a hard job” and then expecting the same commitment year after year.

We’re grateful to Andy and Liz Kimmelman for joining on this episode on sharing how they are flipping their mindset from staff retention to staff resentment. These two incredibly forward-thinking professionals share both the philosophical AND extremely practical ways that camp owners and directors can begin to meet the true needs of this changing staff workforce.

Andy, Liz Howie and Kelly go deep into:

• Why shift to focus on staff resentment?
• How have you seen this play out at your camp? 
• What should camp owners be doing to assess levels of resentment? 

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What Inspires You? 

Things that inspire our hosts and guests to be the best Camp Owners they can be.

• Howie: Your best year ever, by Michael Hyatt
• Kelly: Influence is Your Superpower, by Zoe Chance
• Andy: Brene Brown’s decision to pause her podcast on Spotify - making that decision with curiosity and listening 
• Liz: The band, the “Linda Lindas” - they live into the punk rock value and vibe of questioning the patriarch  - Podcast “The Pen Pals” - with Daniel and Rory 

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Host Links:

• Kelly Schuna - Owner - Hidden Pines Ranch
• Howie Grossinger - Co-owner/Director - Camp Robin Hood, Partner - Camp Walden & Madawaska Camps
• Liz & Andy Kimmelman - Owner/Director - Tumbleweed Day Camp

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