The conversation surrounding student loans is more relevant than ever after Elizabeth Warren announced her plan to cancel student loan debt. In a country with more than $1.4 trillion of student loan debt, some college grads are trying to dodge debt and get creative. We chatted with Bloomberg reporter Claire Boston about how college grads are selling stakes in themselves to Wall Street.

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