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“It seems certain some human voices can work magic, and I don’t know whether it’s their timbre, their range, or the way they harmonise and surprise… It’s a gift they’re given and, if all goes for the best and we are lucky, pass on to the rest of us.” These are the words of Kim Scott, from the introduction of Rivers Flow: Reflections on the songs of Archie Roach & Ruby Hunter that was recently published by Fremantle Press.

This is the fourth book in the series, following anthologies on the music of Paul Kelly, Nick Cave, and Kylie Minogue. 

This edition brings together 23 First Nations writers from across Australia to share stories, personal reflections, and poems that resonate with the music and significant cultural legacy of Archie Roach and Ruby Hunter.

The editor of Rivers Flow Casey Mulder joins us to discuss this special anthology.

Guest: Casey Mulder, Ballardong Noongar educator, writer; Director of First Nations Writing and Programs at the Centre for Stories in Boorloo (Perth), and the editor of Rivers Flow.

In what is perhaps the biggest news in TV comedy of the year - maybe in forty years - earlier this month, a brand new episode of The Muppet Show was released. 

The Muppet Show was Jim Henson’s star-studded vaudeville variety TV show that ran for 5 seasons over 120 episodes from 1976 to 1981. 

Now, forty years later, The Muppet Show is back, streaming on Disney Plus, with Seth Rogan as Executive Producer. 

Revivals are a fraught undertaking though … so was the new Muppet Show any good?  

Guest: Craig Shemin, TV show writer, Henson historian and President of The Jim Henson Legacy - the non-profit organisation dedicated to preserving and celebrating Jim Henson's artistry.

Craig also wrote “Sam and Friends: The Story of Jim Henson’s First Television Show”

In this episode of Household Names we delve into the history of Breville, a company that many of us are familiar with because of their iconic jaffle makers. The company started out in radios and even produced mine detectors during the Second World War because moving into home goods.

A scientific breakthrough by Colossal Bioscience has seen the 'resurrection' of the dire wolf, a megafauna-hunting wolf species that died out around 10,000 years ago. 

But is the science being used really the same as 'de-extinction'? 

And does the very concept of 'de-extinction' undermine efforts to prevent species extinction in the first place?

Guest: Dr Christopher Lean, Research Fellow with the Department of Philosophy at Macquarie University, working with the ARC Centre of Excellence in Synthetic Biology

Queensland software developer Fraser Tweedale made a Freedom of Information request for the MyGov Code Generator app's code so he could review it, but the government refused. 

Services Australia said that releasing the code would leave it open to attack. Fraser argues that cybersecurity requires transparency. 

Having exhausted other avenues, Fraser has crowdfunded legal fees to take Services Australia to the Administrative Review Tribunal, to argue that government applications for punters should be open-source, as 'security by obscurity' has potential to be misused.

Guest: Software engineer Fraser Tweedale

Timor Leste has appointed prosecutors to investigate crimes against humanity committed by the Myanmar military junta against members of the Chin ethnic group, in a test for Timor Leste's commitment to universal jurisdiction.

In the 1960s independent magazine OZ became a cause célèbre when its editors were charged, in the UK and Australia, with obscenity.

Edition 4 of OZ magazine is a rare collectors item, valued at $700 by collectors online. One of the founders of OZ himself, Richard Walsh, had been searching for edition 4 far and wide.

This missing piece of Richard's collection was finally returned when Jill Bowen read about his search in The Australian … and it just so happened she still had her copy from over 60 years ago.

Guest: Jill Bowen, retired journalist

Abraham Kuol spent the first seven years of his life in Kakuma Refugee Camp in Kenya. His family came to Australia as refugees, and this year he is Victoria’s Young Australian of the Year. 

Abraham is an Associate Research Fellow in Criminology at Deakin University, where his research focuses on the post-settlement challenges faced by African Australians, particularly regarding interactions with the justice system. His work with the 2025 Westpac Social Change Fellowship has seen Abraham travel to countries in Europe and the UK to compare their justice responses to those in Victoria.

Abraham is also a leader in Melbourne’s African-Australian community. He understands the power that sports have to create positive change, and he mentors at-risk young people in team sports programs. 

In 2010, Abraham was elected as captain of his primary school, which taught him lessons of service and responsibility that he has carried ever since.

Guest: Abraham Kuol - 2026 Young Australian of the Year for Victoria, and Associate Research Fellow at Deakin University

The Magna Carta is one of the world's most famous documents, and Australia has it's own copy from 1297. Libby Melzer recently completed a 10 year project to analyse and conserve this copy of the Great Charter, touching the 700 year old document with the scalpel herself.

Libby is the Head of Collection Care at State Library Victoria, and she is giving a talk about the Conservation of the Australian copy of the Magna Carta at the National Library of Australia at 6pm on Tuesday, February 10.

Guest: Libby Melzer, Head of Collection Care at State Library Victoria

Straight from Sydney Festival to Melbourne's Art House, Opera for the Dead is a striking contemporary Chinese cyber-opera that blurs ritual, music and technology. Co-creator Mindy Meng Wang reflects on how her personal experience of grief and funeral rites shaped the immersive visual and musical work she developed with sound designer Monica Lim.

Guest:Mindy Meng Wang, world-leading guzheng player, composer and co-creator of Opera for the Dead

Excerpts from Opera For The Dead rehearsal audio courtesy Mindy Meng Wang and Monica Lim