In today’s episode, Henry Winter shares more of his interview with John Herdman, talking about the challenges of leadership and scrutiny in football. Plus, it’s a day of two halves for women’s football: in good news, Everton women will move to Goodison Park, but Blackburn Rovers’ owners will no longer support their women’s team - the FA must respond. And finally, Henry celebrates Lionel Messi’s masterpiece for charity.

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