Tyson and Riley are back and joined by Rob Cesternino from ‘Survivor: The Amazon,’ ‘Survivor: All-Stars,’ and ‘Rob Has a Podcast’ to recap Episode 4 of ‘Survivor 48.’ They talk about the tribe swap, expectations, and its consequences before getting into the new tribe dynamics and why it matters when inheriting the “garbage” tribe.

Hosts: Tyson Apostol and Riley McAtee

Guest: Robert Kristopher "Rob" Cesternino

Producer: Ashleigh Smith

Theme Song: Devon Renaldo

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