“It’s more about us than them.”

Denison Prof Mike Croley zooms in from flyover land to join David and Torie. They bemoan Beloved deniers and debate sports curses. Mike wins the pop quiz, but nobody knew Amelia Earhart wrote poetry. Best-selling and revered author Susan Orlean talks On Animals, a collection of essays about tigers, whales, rabbits and her own backyard chickens. Sometimes funny and sometimes sad, the stories are always insightful and reflective of the power of relationships across species.