Our long-standing #SustyTalk interview series continues!

In this episode, edie's Senior Reporter Sarah George is in discussion with James Payne, Forum for the Future's global strategic lead on the purpose of business.

If you're interested in learning about how you, as an individual, and your organisation, can go about delivering positive changes in systems far bigger than yourself, this is the episode for you. James is on hand to discuss how to identify and pull effective levers for change - and how not to get overwhelmed by some of the world's biggest and most pressing challenge like the climate crisis and nature loss.