In this episode, I spoke with Aaliyah O. Ibrahim, a multidisciplinary artist and international development practitioner about the complexity of Nigerian identity, resilience as a practice of change and unity and freedom as practices of difference. Anchoring our conversation was Professor Bedour Alagraa’s concept of ‘The Interminable Catastrophe’.
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01:19 Exploring the Interminable Catastrophe
09:57 The Otherways, the Otherwise
12:36 Making History and Self-Awareness
16:46 ‘I’m not a healer as much as I am sensitive and I want to be well.’
18:57 Interruption
22:56 Land, Indigeneity, Language and other claims to Nigerianness
34:49 Resilience and Change
38:51 ‘Our intellectual class is getting too comfortable with its nervousness.’
43:38 Afrobeats to whose pockets?
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Mentioned in the episode:
How can Nigeria make Afrobeats pay? (Eniola Olatunji, African Business)
'Afrobeats to the World' gets its biggest challenge (Joey Akpan, Afrobeats Intelligence)
“Are you sure, sweetheart, that you want to be well? … Just so’s you’re sure, sweetheart, and ready to be healed, cause wholeness is no trifling matter. A lot of weight when you're well.” - Toni Cade Bambara, The Salt Eaters
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“i don't pay attention to the
world ending.
it has ended for me
many times
and began again in the morning.”
― Nayyirah Waheed, Salt
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