Our two grumpy strategists Michael and Marcus discuss the US withdrawal from Syria, debated Putin’s role and grappled with the complex issue of Australian returning foreign fighters (1:05).

Continuing our coverage of Syria, Elise and Tom from our cyber team chat about different social media campaigns that are targeting the narratives surrounding Turkey’s offensive against Kurdish forces in the region (14:40).

Finally, Jack interviews Rod Lyon, senior fellow at ASPI, to celebrate the release of his Strategist Selections, a collection of his articles on nuclear strategy (23:10).

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In this episode:

Michael Shoebridge https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/michael-shoebridge

Marcus Hellyer https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/marcus-hellyer

Elise Thomas https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/elise-thomas

Tom Uren https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/tom-uren

Rod Lyon https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/rod-lyon

Jack Norton https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/jack-norton

Renee Jones https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/renee-jones

Mentioned in this episode:

https://www.aspi.org.au/report/nuclear-strategy-changing-world

Music in this ep: "Stars and Constellations" by Sarah, The Illstrumentalist via the You Tube Audio Library.