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I do love talking about business and sales.  And that is becoming abundantly clear to me.  Which leads me to a conundrum, which direction do I go?  Focused more on the spiritual conversations?  Or the business conversations?  Or does it meld somewhere in between.  And I’m concerned that I’m falling into a narcissistic abyss.

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Transcript: 00:01Some of the inspiration that had come through for me out of Funnel Hacking Live was how much I do like talking about business and business strategy and, sales. Like, I'm a salesman, I was in sales for 20 years. And I love the sales profession. I do. I love the lead generation. I tend to like a shorter sales cycle sales versus long sales cycle. But just strategy and what are people doing? And what are people up to and how they had success? And what are their trials and tribulations.  I met so many people at Funnel Hacking Live where I got to have that conversation. I was like, I love that conversation. And I bring my curiosity and wonder that to that conversation. And how fun it is for me.

01:28

And then there's people out there that have a story, they want to tell that.  But perhaps under their normal environment, they don't get to share, share those types of stories. So it's like, gosh, it would be fun to do some of those interviews and, and, you know, create summits around it and stuff.  And I have a lot even more clear of a vision than that. However, I'm protective of it. Literally in this moment, this is great, you know, scared to share it because what if someone runs with it? Well, the reality is, is there's already a whole bunch of people that have run with it already. In one way or another.

02:18

But the point is, what is the point? The point is that again, I'm thinking…  If you of listened a couple of episodes ago, to Earston reminding me make sure you're of service with this stuff. In a subtle way.  In the most loving way. Make sure this isn't narcissistic in nature, your podcasting. So how can this help you? How can I be of service? Hopefully the story is of service. I'm going to let it go and continue on with the story. So you know the current…there’s the one way where this is my internal battle right now of what I'm trying to sort out. And perhaps as entrepreneurs trying new endeavors. Or salesman trying new endeavors or saleswoman trying new endeavors. Or maybe your existing business you're needing to try new things. Sure is great when that one straight line, it's shining right in front of you. I guess I have the luxury right now of having two lines.  One is for the this is one bit of inspiration that came from me out of Funnel Hacking Live. I've got the I've got the the divorced, sober salesman father who I can help have fun again. thrive again. You know, they're ready. They're ready. Okay, I'm ready to really level up my life. And yeah, get back on the horse, shall we say. So I love that I've been working hard on that. Like coming to that clarity of vision of that specific person who I can help. And then there's also sort of this new iteration of me flying around of oh my gosh you know, following the steps of success.

04:54

Following the steps, so you can have success, somebody. And so, you know, there's all the stories to tell around business success. And I love business. And as I said, as a salesman, I've tried very has had various little small business ventures over the years. So I've definitely gone the entrepreneurial route. And so, you know, it's like, how are these two things is going to meld together? And, and, you know, one side of me is like, bye divorced dad friend, who was me, who is me, right. And I'm all excited about this new business stuff. And, and so my new person to help could be the fledgling you know, entrepreneurial (maybe it's entrepreneur, entre proneural divorced dad) I think you get what I'm saying that they seem to be two opposite paths. And this inspiration was so much fun for me.

06:17

One bit of it of the just chatting with people about their entrepreneurial endeavors. Like, I love that! So how am I gonna? Is there a way to meld together work? Do I pick one or the other? And what are the tools? The strategies I used for clarity? I think that's the lesson here. Can I can I can I continue to plow forward in the uncertainty? Can I do the prayer meditation? That writing the pro and con list. And again, because we had a very pointed conversation the other day, it was like, Hey, do the old pro and con list? Like yeah, that's a good idea. But ultimately, what path brings me I can the most passion and fun and youthful joy and enthusiasm and wonder. I'm a little, a little, a little, a little babbley here, but thank you for your patience. Oh, and this, this scenario definitely did remind me of, like the shiny object syndrome. Right? That's, I guess that's the way to button up this episode. It's the shiny object syndrome, this idea that the shiny object syndrome that's the idea that, you know, I'm getting there's new things to do in regard to the high performing salesman, divorced dad sober person that I can help get back on track, you know, thrive have fun again.

08:21

And then there's the shiny object over here of, of, of starting brand new, bringing what I've already learned to it, of course, you know, brand new podcast, brand new Summit, brand new avatar. And somehow that's going to be the magic solution that makes it all easy, and takes away the pain points. But the reality is, I still come to the same point of product creation. Asking the list for how, what they want help with things like that. So is it just a shiny object? And I'm not necessarily asking you for answers. Just telling you the process.  Please Jesus let this be adding value. That's it. I'm done. I am done. I don't even think I could recap this episode at this point. Anyway, love to all

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Rick Hayhurst has been a manual therapist for 28 years and counting!  And a teacher of teachers in the manual therapy arena.  What that means is he knows how to help people “heal”.  Mentally, physically, and emotionally.   His surprisingly simple step 1 “the gift of noticing”.  Most people, it seems, do everything in their power other than notice.  Listen in.  You will be enlightened. 

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0:00:05.9 Mischa Zvegintzov: Welcome back, everybody, to the Tools for a Good Life Summit, and right now, I would like to introduce to you, Rick Hayhurst. Welcome, Rick.

0:00:17.5 Rick Hayhurst: Hello, hello, hello.

0:00:19.6 Mischa Z: Fantastic, welcome. I'm gonna read your bio real quick. So, Rick, you have been a manual therapist for about 38 years. I believe we hammered it out and decided it was 28 years. You've been a... Yup... You've been a coach for about 28 years as well. You've created and developed six different massage therapy schools. You have produced multiple continuing education programs, and this is for the manual therapy arena. Correct?

0:00:52.8 Rick Hayhurst: Yes.

0:00:53.1 Mischa Z: And you find yourself quite boring.

0:00:57.7 Rick Hayhurst: Yes. Very uninteresting. [chuckle] A perfect coach. Yes.

0:01:06.3 Mischa Z: I just wanna get right to it. So I think that... I want to know... You've been in manual therapies, and so when we talk about manual therapies, there's obviously massage, things like that. What else fits into manual therapies, when you say manual therapies?

0:01:22.5 Rick Hayhurst: Anything that manipulates tissue. So if you think about... The chiropractor is a manual therapist, he's working manual... The physical therapist is a manual therapist. Anaprapath is a manual therapist. A massage therapist is a manual therapist. There are manual therapies that don't fit in those categories, so they're actually just manual therapists... They're called manual therapists.

0:01:45.7 Mischa Z: Okay. And so, you tend to be more along the lines of the manual therapists that are manipulating tissues, then.

0:01:51.8 Rick Hayhurst: Yeah, yeah, in fact, the DO is a manual therapist, the doctor who has a DO designation, Doctor of Osteopathy, they actually learn osteopathic manipulations. So...

0:02:01.9 Mischa Z: Oh cool.

0:02:03.3 Rick Hayhurst: Yeah. So some of the continuing education programs that I run, have included all of those modalities. So not just one or the other, but... And pain management has been my study and also what I've produced over time. So in any case, those are manual therapies.

0:02:21.8 Mischa Z: Cool. Thank you. Thank you for answering that question. And I noted for you, that you... Transformational massage and body work. And so, I think someone such as myself who maybe has been a bit... In my younger years, was a bit... What's the word? I don't know if... Skeptical... So not contemptuous, but skeptical of the usefulness of massage... Like, transformational, I would think. I'm not sure if that's something I would say about massage or other sorts of body work. But as I've gotten to where I am today, mentally and then emotionally, I'm like, "Oh yeah, we as humans, we hold a lot of stuff energetically, inside, that would be awesome if we could release it, via some transformational massage and body work." And I know you're gonna say yes to that. So my question to you is, tell me some before and afters that you've seen, with some of your clients, of like... Yeah, this was the state they came in. This is... We did. And this is where they are.

0:03:40.2 Rick Hayhurst: Yeah. Such a great conversation to have. Really, what is the story your body is telling? What is that story? And every body is telling a story. The story your body is telling may or may not be the same story your mouth is telling. And so to really get into the distinction between what is the story the body is telling as a result of what is the energy that I'm holding. What is the trauma that I'm holding? You know, a ballet dancer is telling one story and then the person on the couch who hasn't moved for 30 years is telling... That body is telling a different story.

0:04:18.1 Rick Hayhurst: And it's no judgment about one or the other, it's just a story that the body tells. And so when you think about the before and after of a transformational session... So fundamentally, I'm a coach. Fundamentally, I'm an educator, I'm a coach. I've been educating my whole professional life and coaching people through experiences of trauma, often, all of that time. So when you think about putting a session together for someone who has a body that's telling a story... So one story would be headaches. A woman walks in my room... Excuse me, "I've had headaches for 40 years, and I don't know what you're gonna do for me."

0:04:56.3 Rick Hayhurst: And she's a little bit angry.

0:04:58.0 Mischa Z: Yeah.

0:05:00.4 Rick Hayhurst: And I said, "Well, I'm not gonna do anything for you because that presentation doesn't allow me to." I just wanna honor where you are and where you are is like, "I've had headaches for 40 years, and what are you gonna do about it?" Well, I'm not gonna do anything about it. But I'm gonna invite you to do something about it. And is that... Are you ready for that? Because maybe she's not. You gotta understand that 40 years of headaches and identity, it's not just a headache, it's an identity. And it's a story that lives inside of that person, and that's expressed in the body of that person.

0:05:32.2 Rick Hayhurst: Now, if you look at where the body is, the body is a vehicle in life, so that lives in her life. Headaches live in her life. So if you wanna unravel that, you have to get that you're unraveling a life. You're unraveling an identity. So let me just check in with you. How is that occurring for you as I'm saying that?

0:05:51.7 Mischa Z: I like it... Well, I don't like it, but I like it. I'm not sure if I'm answering the question.

0:06:02.2 Rick Hayhurst: Yeah, so, like it or not, what is it saying to you? What's occurring inside of your own body as you're hearing me say like 40 years... What are you gonna do about it? How is it occurring for you as I'm just being that person who's holding that space, that's saying, "I'm not gonna do anything about it."

0:06:16.3 Mischa Z: Yeah, meaning... So you're asking me like if I were to hear, "Hey, Mischa, what are you gonna do about this?" Is that... Am I understanding that right?

0:06:27.9 Rick Hayhurst: So we'll edit this out.

0:06:28.9 Mischa Z: Yes...

0:06:33.5 Rick Hayhurst: Yes. So... And then... And take two. So the gift of having that person who comes in who says, "I've got 40 years, what are you gonna do about it?" Healing happens on the inside. So healing is our responsibility. What are we gonna do to heal ourselves? Now, we look outside of ourselves for support for practitioners, therapists, etcetera. We look outside for the coach to say, "We need to do step one, step two, step three." Whether or not we do it is up to us. Whether or not our body changes as a result of a manual therapy is up to us.

0:07:09.1 Mischa Z: Yes, okay.

0:07:10.1 Rick Hayhurst: And sometimes, again, we have a holding pattern. It's an identity. Pain can become an identity. So a person comes in, 40 years of headaches, what do you gonna do about it? Nothing. What would you like to do about it? A lot of resistance. Like, "My doctor told me to come and that's why I came." Okay, great. Alright, great. Tell me about your headache. Wow. Now, you're getting to the story. I had a child and it's from the epidural, I'm sure of it. And that could be the case. It could be true. So I pull up some charts and I say, "Hey, let's just look at some pain patterns." And as you look at these charts, do you see yourself in any of these images of pain, the cause of pain and referral patterns, things like that?" And she says, "Yes. There's me, there's me, there's me, there's me."

0:08:00.0 Rick Hayhurst: Now, when a person responds like that, the truth is, it probably is them. It probably is what they're dealing with. And so, I say, "Okay, great. Well, this is what I suggest. How about we treat these things." And before we do that, my question to you though is, you've had headaches for 40 years, you've seen doctors, you've seen specialists, you've changed your diet, you've done all kinds of things to approach healing these headaches or this headache. What is missing? And she says, "I don't know. I don't know." And I say, "Well, you have to get that something's missing in the formula because 40 years of treatment and still having the same pathology... Just... We're just looking at like... Is there something missing?

0:08:46.1 Rick Hayhurst: She says, "Well, I really don't know. What do you think is missing?" And I said, "Proper treatment." I think proper treatment is missing. I think you're doing a great job with what you're doing, and you've landed in this chair. So let me just invite you to this experience. Maybe this experience can inform you or your body in a way that it hasn't been informed before. Great. She was a little like, "Okay." [chuckle] Like one of those.

0:09:12.9 Rick Hayhurst: And I was so grateful for her, she's a beautiful human. We're talking about a beautiful woman, we're not talking about anything else. We're talking about a beautiful, educated... Highly educated human.

0:09:25.5 Mischa Z: Yes.

0:09:26.0 Rick Hayhurst: And so, I invited her to lay on the table, and I think I touched her for about 20 minutes. A little manual therapy in her head and her neck and treated what I saw in the charts that she defined as her. And finished... Again, just 20 minutes of manual therapy. And I said, "Let's just check in. How are you doing?" "Well, I don't have a headache anymore." And I said, "When's the last time you didn't have a headache?" "I told you it was 40 years ago." And I said, "Okay. So in 40 years, you have had zero interruption in the headache expressing itself painfully." "Yes, 40 years."

0:10:07.2 Rick Hayhurst: And I said, "And today, right now, you don't have a headache." "I don't have a headache. What did you do?" And I said, "Let's just check in. Is it okay with you that you don't have a headache?" "Yes." "Okay. What I did was treat you according to what I explained in the beginning. And we looked at the charts and we just addressed what you pointed out, so we just followed your lead."

0:10:33.3 Rick Hayhurst: "Wow, I don't have a headache." And I said, "What you have to define for yourself is, are you okay with that because I can't support you if you're not. So if you're okay with that, we can go forward. If you're not, then I can't treat you." "Well, I'm okay." I said, "Great. I'll see you in three days, and I want you in my schedule every three days for this much time. Let's just check in. We'll do six sessions." If we wanna cancel any of that we can. Let's just put it in a calendar. "Okay." So leaves, comes back in three days. "How are you doing?" "I don't have a headache." And I said, "Isn't that amazing?" "What did you do?" And I said, "Do you want the headache?" "No." And I said, "Then look at your face and tell your face that you don't want the headache." [chuckle]

0:11:24.9 Rick Hayhurst: And she is confronted by that.

0:11:29.0 Mischa Z: Yes. Yes.

0:11:29.1 Rick Hayhurst: And I said, "Listen, you have an entire life set up to support being in pain, and I understand that." It's okay that you have that, but in order to change it, sometimes, we have to look at what are the systems that keep me in a holding pattern, and then how can I transform that holding pattern so that I can then transform the expression of the pain, which in this case is just a headache.

0:11:54.1 Rick Hayhurst: And I said, "So I'm only inviting you. I'm just inviting you." It means nothing to me. And I hope you get out of pain, but it doesn't affect my life, but I'm just inviting you. Are you willing to be in this work? "Yes." [chuckle] "Great. Great." And the gift of this story is just that healing is possible. Healing is possible, and it starts really with the mindset. The expression of pain is not the beginning of the pain. You gotta get the iceberg... The tip of the iceberg is the expression of pain, but what's underneath of it. And so, as we address that mindset, are you okay with it? Do you want it? And what are the systems that you have in place to support what you used to have versus creating new systems to support what you want to have? Go ahead.

0:12:47.0 Mischa Z: Yeah, yeah. No, I wanna get to the question because I think this is na

What if you could let go of outcomes?  Breath in the purity of the moment.  Breath out and the outcomes and let it go…

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As I’m back from Funnel Hacking Live 2021 with my new voice in hand.  My confidence starts to waiver.  And that illusive new voice is just that.  ILLUSIVE.  But no matter.  I get to stay true to myself and keep trying.  That’s lesson here, Keep Trying!

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Transcript: Mischa Zvegintzov  00:01 As the dust is settling from Funnel Hacking Live and I'm settling into my new voice. Oh my gosh.  Oh my gosh, this episode, what are we going to talk about? On this episode I'm going to talk about how I thought I'd found my new voice but keep trying. And how powerful that idea is. And yeah, all the thoughts and emotions around that. So anybody just jumping in? I was at Funnel Hacking Live 2021. And just inspiration was crackling. It's still crackling. Like I'm writing down ideas super fast and, and just embracing new new thoughts, new openness, new willingness to think is so powerful. It's funny, as I record this and thinking about the conversation of "is this about me?" "Or is this about me adding value and carrying a positive message for you?" The listener and I'll do my best. But I am a Leo. If you believe in that stuff, that kinda sometimes means it's gonna be about me.

Mischa Zvegintzov  01:23 Oh my gosh, it's degenerating, the episode is degenerating already. So yeah, Funnel Hacking live you know, and I sent out this email.   So I did the summit www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com You can go check it out. But when you opt in, I get your email and then you're on my email list so be aware.  But the content on there is awesome. So do know that you will get awesome content but you will then be on my email list. But then if you don't enjoy the emails that you're getting from me, you can unsubscribe. so there's the quid pro quo you get access to the awesomeness of the Tools for Good Life Summit and the 20 speakers who just dropped bomb after bomb after bomb.

Mischa Zvegintzov  02:16 So anyway I feel as I am I've got created this list now and not only so not only not only now am I podcasting but I have an email list hopefully you're on that list. And I'm sending emails and on these emails I am trying to be. I am trying to be helpful again or carry a useful message. At the same time anybody in the email marketing sales game you are also encouraged to make an offer make an offer. And so all the emails so far... oftentimes my offers since I actually have no like no like course or wristband or watch or whatever. I have no official product offering.  I'm my call to action to you on the email is (hello) is go listen to this podcast or episode.  Or you know opt into the tools for a good life summit or go here and check this out. I'm trying to get in the habit of of you know making an offer and you may agree or disagree with that. But hopefully the value add outweighs... creates the goodwill that you look at what I'm up to. So there you have it a little bit of a tangent per usual. 

Mischa Zvegintzov  04:10 But the last email I had sent out from that email list was "I'm back from the Funnel Hacking live... I think it was "I found my voice!" and that what the previous a bunch of the episodes over the last 10 a chunk of them have been about all this inspiration and new ideas and pivoting and course correction and and all that. As the excitement of the Funnel Hacking Live 2021 You should definitely go Google and check out the the the sizzle reels from the funnel hiking lives. They are awesome. They're a ton of fun. So good, great networking opportunity. Learning opportunity inspirational, like I came back, and people were like, Oh my gosh, she's seen, of course, reinvigorated, or, or, you know, just lots of fun commentary

Mischa Zvegintzov  05:17 So over the past couple of days, I'm just going to be continue with my vulnerability. I was like, wait a minute, that new voice that I had found I'd found my voice. So  fleeting.   I settled back into unshuredness insecurity. What else can I say? I guess I'll frame it this way. I so badly wanted to have my voice and, and know, the direction forward. Like some people seem to be so convicted in the courses that are going to create. The product offerings they're going to have. Who they're going to serve, what their avatar is. You know, they're who the why all this stuff. And I was so pumped up and in the zone, still ton of inspiration flowing through. But some of the insecurity is coming back. Right, as I talk to people about my new thoughts. And you get, you know how it is when you talk to somebody, when you're in your creative mode, and you're talking to somebody. You're going to get half the people that are going to tell you great idea, go that direction. The other half are gonna say, Are you crazy, stick with your current direction.

Mischa Zvegintzov  06:44 And it's my job to talk to the universe source, god says what I believe by the way, and ask for, you know, direction, and patience. That's the other thing that's coming through. Mischa, you got to be patient. Earston, who I was talking about on a previous episode, was like, Hey, man, you know, be patient with yourself. Easy. Let that let the message come when it's ready.  Of clarity for you. I love that. I do so.  So some insecurities dropped back in. And so the really interesting thing is that I put that email out there. "I found my voice" and whatever other things I said. And I had for a moment...but my voice has slipped away again. And I was like, "Oh, no". And so the point of this whole thing is that I was like, "oh, no".  I don't want to have to go back to the social media post or the email or whatever and claim ignorance now. And be like, "Yeah, you know, I thought I had my voice but it's gone". So what I wanted to do was the next email I'm going to send out is going to have "Urgent update!" "Found voice maybe lost still!" or something like that.

Mischa Zvegintzov  08:33 But once I could laugh at myself about it. So important, I was doing some yoga at the house. And I just started laughing at myself. And laughing about the situation and thinking, "oh my gosh this is funny". I think it's funny. And what a funny email to send. But here's sort of the kicker. Keep trying. Keep trying. Keep working at it. Don't give up. Because my inclination can be throw in the towel. You know, leave the coaching group. Exit the bigger picture project vision all together. But as I hung in there with the insecurity and was able to laugh.  And just be like, "Hey, keep trying". You know. People need to hear that. That's my message to you today. With the new ventures that we're tackling, keep trying. Don't give up. And my old voice and my new voice. They're meeting somewhere in between. So There you go love to all have a good day

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I ask a friend to give me his honest opinion on my three best innate characteristics.  And my three biggest blind spots…  And I get great insights in to both fronts.  Perhaps I have a tendency towards narcissism on my podcast!  …But I’m trying to be of service!  You can always learn what not to do!  LOL.  Enjoy this episode. 

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Transcript: 00:02 I was asking my good friend Earston we hadn't talked for a couple weeks, and I want to talk about being of service versus being narcissistic, being of service versus being narcissistic. What a fine line that can seem to be. And perhaps, in my narcissism, I still have an opportunity to be of service. I don't know. But let's get into it. I, again, was talking to my good friend first and, and we talk every week or every couple weeks, and he's a he's a musician. close to my age, you can plow back through some episodes to find out how old I am. But he's re inspired over the past couple of years to to really go after that. Musician dream. And you can check him out Earston Pearcy. He's got some music out there. Sorry, you're assumed to put you out there. Not necessarily the main purpose here. But anyway, there's Earston and I, you know, both creative and are always trying to be supportive of each other and and so I asked Earston today, what are my top three positives?  I can't remember how I framed it.  But something like that are the top three. What are my top threes good things about me. Attributes characteristics, and he said some very nice things.  And they were in regards to, you know, curiosity, wonder and how I bring that curiosity and wonder to the interviews that I do. To The Summit that I did. The Summit interviews for The Tools For A Good Life Summit interviews.
02:11 You can check them out at www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com. And said, I bring that curiosity, true curiosity, childlike curiosity and wonder and, and being interested to the interviews that I do. And I'm conscientious and caring and thoughtful and some other nice things in there. And he said some cool things about my character, as well first. You know, good friend, loyal, supportive, spiritual, you know, trustworthy. Couple of other cool things that were super fun to hear.

02:52 And thank you for listening to that. My narcissist, grandiose side coming out. And so I said, well, Earston of all right, give me the top three blind spots that I have, or, you know, try not to call it negative, but maybe growth opportunities or some such thing, I believe I called them blind spots. And he thought for a minute, you know, 15 or 30 seconds. And I recommend anybody do this with their a good friend who knows them, who is willing to put their put themselves on the line. And get ready for the feedback to that's the rest of the story, get ready of the feedback for the feedback.

03:46 Anthony trucks actually talked about this in the Tools For A Good Life Summit interview that I did with him. So again, you can go to tools, you can go to www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com. And one of the things that Anthony said to do was, you know, purposefully, or intentionally reach out to your the closest people in your network and ask them for feedback. You know, what are my positives that you see in me? What are my supposedly negatives? What are my blind spots? And, and I thought, Yeah, that's great. I'd actually have done that before. And I think in this iteration of what I'm up to, it was valuable to do it again. So I asked him to Earston it. And he said, Well, you know, because you know how there's so many people out there on social media and podcasts or whatever, you know, they're, they're just super narcissistic, and they're just like, it's all about them.

05:01 Like the people that are healers, like the people that are bringing something like they're trying to serve carry a positive message or not a positive message, but but he said it in a way of people that are, are being helpful. It's a helpful message, they're trying to help be helpful to the audience. And listening, okay, okay. And he drops the narcissist word sometimes a couple of times. And I'm not saying you do this, I'm not saying you do this. But, you know, he went on a little two or three minute rant, which was very gracious.

05:37 And Earston. I hope you're listening to this episode, I know that I love you. And it's super fun to, to talk about this. And ersten by the way, you are very supportive of me, thank you so much. One of the previous episodes I did was who's supportive of you, who is consistently supportive of you and your efforts in what you do. And Earston, my friend, you are one of those people.  You are very supportive me supportive of me in my endeavors. And so anyhow, he goes, he's just talking about, you know, people talking to hear themselves talk and, and being narcissistic, and this and that, and I'm not saying you do it all the time... So I'm like, so let me ask you. Are you saying that? Sometimes it can seem like I'm just talking to hear myself talk? Or I can't remember exactly how I said it?

06:39 He does get sometimes not all the time, because clearly you're trying to be useful or helpful, or, or what have you. And he goes, and you're pumping out an episode every day. So it's gonna be hard, sometimes, not to have it be about you. And oh, my gosh, it was so sweet the way he said it. But I heard it. Right. And I think it's a great question. And it's a it's a question that I try to ask myself, as I'm putting out the content that I'm putting out on social media or I'm barely I'm on social media, I need to do it more. Whatever need means is part of the master plan. Perhaps I'm not doing it yet, because I don't know how to do it from a service standpoint.

07:33 But yeah, so you know, I'm, I think it's a valuable question that I need to ask myself, "How am I being of service with my message?" And "am I being of service?" and I try to I, my listener, friends here who faithfully Listen, or if you're a new listener, please know that I try. I'm trying trying to be of service I'm trying to carry a message of of, you know, hope change, trying new things. That's a big part of what I'm doing is you get to go on my journey with me as I try new things, try podcasting try summits try creating sale-able content here soon, hopefully. Whether that's courses or who knows what it is, you know, high end coaching or high ticket high ticket that's what it's cold in the online world high ticket offerings? Or, or who knows maybe hard good products? What have you babbling a little bit at this point, but just trust that I am. You know, I, I do circle back around to that. God, universe? Source, how can I be of service here help me be of service and so I'm trying the best I can.

09:05 And if I come off a little self aggrandizing that's the right word, self aggrandizing or narcissistic or it's all about me talking to hear myself talk, there's no doubt that that's happening sometimes. So thank you for your patience with me and, and Dino, again, that I'm trying, I'm trying to bring the messages that I learned or that not the messages, the the, the incremental learnings that I've had, through my experience and through the things I'm doing now and trying to convey that. And my frustrations, my trials, tribulations and trying to be vulnerable. Maybe I'm going down the narcissistic path right now? Again, I'm sorry.

10:01 I'm trying, but I'm going to end with this. So there's a great thought of, of perhaps in my narcissism or perhaps in it being about me, there's lessons to be learned from you, as well. When I'm in that space, you can be like, perhaps, hey... if I'm creating content, that's a good way not to do it. Or if I'm trying to carry a message, perhaps he's showing me how not to do it. And I like that thought. So anyway, enough out of me. Thank you for listening. Thank you Earston love you.  Thank you for the great feedback and everybody go check out the www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com And check out Anthony trucks and his little tips and tricks.

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I get a fanny pack from the Funnel Hacking Live swag pack.  Which susses out some contempt prior to investigation.  So of course I go on a riff about swag and fanny packs.  Ultimately the less you can worry about what people think about you the better. 

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Transcript: Mischa Z  0:01 Good morning, everybody. I, the song I was originally going to walk out on to the Funnel Hacking Live stage with was going to be cashmere Led Zeppelin's Kashmir, which I still think is an awesome choice. But I thought if you're gonna pick a song that's maybe why not go really, really big Kiss God Of Thunder, like, that's it come out to Kiss's, God Of Thunder. If it's going to be a self aggrandizement, rock and roll moment, why not just? Yeah, that's a good one. Today, I'm going to talk about contempt, contempt prior to investigation, and how a fanny pack showed me that even at the advanced wisdom stage of 53 years old, as I record this, that I can still have contempt. Oh, a fanny pack completely showed me that. So as everybody knows, if you've listened to the past few episodes, I was just at Funnel Hacking Live 2021 as this is being recorded, hello, everybody who's maybe jumping into this, three or four years later? Glad to have you here too. But the Funnel Hacking Live is basically, you know, internet, internet entrepreneurs. Generally speaking, coming from a heart centered place, how can they serve? That's the message how can we serve? How are we being called to serve by whatever is greater than us by that internal clock? And, or however you want to call it? And that then then the two comma Club Award is just a measure of your capacity to serve at that moment, a financial measure. I love that idea. So whenever you go to a Russell Brunson event, it seems as though he's handing out boxes of swag. T shirts books, all the speakers books from the speakers, you know, courses, backpacks. What else did we get their sweatshirts and a fanny pack. So when you roll in, first thing you do? Well I first thing I did was registered the hotel then I went to the Funnel Hacking Live registration, by the way, being part of the Two Comma Club X, which is their coaching group the to cc x, you get your own special registration area that's expedited and super fun and makes you feel super good. But they hand you your box of swag. I get to the hotel room I crack it open. And I'm going through all the amazing things. And side note, throughout the event, they're giving out more and more swag more and more T shirts. My son Waylon loves this one long sleeve t shirt. Russell, thank you so much for using top quality fabrics and cotton's and the swag that you hand out T shirts are all amazing. It's soft and buttery. And so my son Waylon is always so grateful. And it's so hard for me to hand him the swan shirt. I was like, oh, Waylon's gonna love this one. Got to give it to him. Oh, I wanted to keep it for myself. But I handed it over graciously. And he loves it and is so happy. And of course anyway, one of the schwag pieces was a fanny pack, a Funnel Hacker fanny pack. Now I've got a little bit of an ego and over the years, anybody walking with a fanny pack, we know that joke like fanny pack brings to mind a certain type of person. Right?

Mischa Z  4:50 I'm gonna fast forward to the end of the story right now. It's someone who doesn't care and someone who totally appreciates the functionality and the self weeding out process is that if somebody doesn't like me, because I'm wearing a fanny pack, or that helps filter out that person. God bless the fanny pack. Yes. Anyway, I just, you know, never caught me wearing a fanny pack and, and I get the fanny pack, I look at it, I actually almost left it at the hotel. I almost when I say I almost left it at the hotel, I had packed everything up when I was leaving. And I had put left the fanny pack out of the packing. So I was ready to walk out the door and wave the fanny pack goodbye. And I thought you know what, worst case, I'll donate that said fanny pack to Goodwill or whatever somebody will find use for it. Don't just leave it to end up in the trash. So I shove it in the in my bag, along with a few other things that I was gonna leave behind. Oh my gosh, this sweatshirt. I was like I really was gonna leave that behind. Why was he gonna do that I love that sweatshirt, I'm i I'm in this phase of trying to go logo I've been in been in it for quite a while trying to go as logoless and saying less as possible on any t shirts or sweatshirts or whatever that I wear. And I understand that going logoless. You know that can that can be just as much of a statement is going logo full. Anyhow, so I grabbed the fanny pack, and the sweatshirt. And of course immediately when I got home off the airplane, it was a bit chilly. The next morning, I grabbed the softest, buttery bestest, bestest, 2CCX club sweatshirt, Logos abound, statements of joy printed on it, and wore it with glee was so happy. I was like, Thank God I put that contempt aside. Now I've got this awesome sweatshirt. And actually, I was going to give it to Wales had already given given him one, this one happens to be a double XL. So it's plenty of roomy, plenty of room has room to shrink. But the fanny pack...so as I'm recording this episode, I'm walking. And I've got my sure MV 88 mic that I'm recording on. And I've had this mic that I've been using, had it for a good five, six years now. And it's in still in awesome condition. And the reason is, is because I leave it in this cool little case, the carry case that it comes with, and it's very compact. You could carry the mic itself in your pocket with no case. And it would be just, you wouldn't even notice. But I like to keep it in the case to keep it nice and nice and shiny and new. And and so it's perhaps a little bulky, a little bulky in the pocket. And it's funny because being a little bit bulky, it's you know, it's kind of bulges out. Oh my god. So funny. Anyhow, I also usually have, you know, some Apple AirPod Pros, you know, and I'm gonna have links for all of this stuff in the show notes. Please click on the links, buy your Air Pod Pro's, which are freaking amazing. The noise cancelling the functionality of those little headphones so cool. Had a little contempt towards those two. Oh my goodness. But I went ahead and got him Waylon It doesn't matter. I got him just I got the big things. And they're awesome. Put my contempt aside. I got it. I got a I got them on sale for like 150 off. That's how I'm justifying buying them to you right now. Anyway, anyhow. Sadly, that deal won't be available through the link. That deal is over anyway.

Mischa Z  9:50 It was a college thing. If your son was if a family member or you were in college, you could save a little bit of money they were having to deal by an iPad Air get a discount on the headphones. Thank you for listening. So the fanny pack so I've got and then my hair is super long so I carry a tie. Perhaps I'm walk out the door with a credit card. And so the first morning walk back, though so I get back the first morning walk from being back from Funnel Hacking Live. I, I I spotted the fanny pack out of the corner of my eye. And I was like maybe I'll give that a try. Maybe people know something I don't. Throw my headphones in there. The the iPad, Air Pod Pros. Throw the mic in there. The Shure MV88 Mic throw my my where they called squeegee hair tie scrunchie is crunchy hair dye a credit card. You know what? And it's like it goes so easy around your waist. It's like you're floating. It's floating on your on your waist. best invention ever. Best invention ever. So glad I finally went set my my contempt aside and embrace the fanny pack. And I think functionally that's that's a that's a function of two things one my age to not caring so much anymore. The less I can care what people think about me externally the better or internally. However you want to say it and Nick. I can't say his last name. Nick spoke at Funnel Hacking Live and he said it so eloquently. And he's an awesome representation of that. Alright, I'm done. Love to all utilize your fanny pack. They are awesome.

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We cannot deny the power of storytelling in today's sales and marketing environment.  One of the instructions I had earlier in this process was "Inventory your stories."  Don't place judgment on them, just list each one with a one sentence reminder.  Good or bad.  I'm starting to see the payoff of that now. 

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Transcript: Mischa Z: 00:01 On the last episode, I spoke about two things, specifically spoke about a lot of stuff, but two main points. One was the illusion of overnight success. And that the reality is for a huge amount of people. It's that luck that illusion of luck that we may see in somebody is actually, I love this definition love, or excuse me, luck is where preparation meets opportunity. One of my mentors in the loan business Darren Riley told me about that, told me that saying, I can't remember who said it. He referenced somebody it's probably a famous football coach. But,uand then the other was that, you know, embracing the vision that's popping into your head and then printing out a,uuua picture of that and slamming it on your wall and,um. Morning. A cute girl with cute dog, just rode by and,usorry about the diversion.

Mischa Z: 01:16 Yeah, so I wanted to continue a little bit on that theme and, and say. That yes the vision, the thoughts of the creative thoughts in a new direction and, and my course correction and who I can help and how I can be of service is coming through loud and strong. And I will be jumping on stage too at this point, Kiss's God of Thunder. And yeah, and I had a new point. I was going to talk about it was that, oh yeah. So, and a lot, there's, there's a lot of storytelling going on in online marketing. Obviously you've got to be able to tell a story, craft a story, have it be poignant. Have it, you know, connect the dots, have it inspire in, you know movement orders, transformation in people, all these things. There's always all this important stuff, important reasons to tell stories and learn how to tell stories and tell the right story at the right time. And we're about to cross the street. So I'm going to pause. So you get lots of good reasons to tell stories, and there's ultimately the shortest form of little blips on the social media, where you might do posts that convey emotion.

Mischa Z: 03:09 But I, so it's important to have a catalog of stories and one of the things and the Dot Com Secrets, you know, playbook, shall we say, or manual to online business success is having a catalog of stories. So he had us do an exercise. He has, you do an exercise. And I did this exercise, and it's really interesting because it's materializing in, in a presentation, my subconscious and now coming out in my conscious if you're tracking, me still. So, so just to, you know, I was listening to Kiss's God of thunder and just had it looping because it's such a fun song and reminding me of my youth and all this. And then over the past few days as this creativity, new direction, new vision has been flowing through and ideas for a presentation have been absolutely coming together and manifesting and all these stories slowly sliding in at the right places and such.

Mischa Z: 04:36 And as I was recording the last episode I realized, oh my gosh, I had totally forgot that I had done that step of inventorying stories of my life. And it's a great, great idea. And you don't have to write out all the stories, all you have to do as a, like a bullet point sentence. And so I was writing them down, writing them down, writing them down and, you know, there's, you have to stop and do it. You have to stop and write those down. You have to stop and think, and I can tell you that maybe I did it for an hour plus or minus. I can't remember exactly right. It might, I'll have to go through my notes or done it over a couple of days at different times. But starting to think in that direction and not putting judgment on whether the story is good or bad, right or wrong, I need to use this story or not. Just inventorying all the stories of your life.

Mischa Z: 05:51 And I don't mean like bad stories. You're telling yourself that are holding you down. You know what I'm saying? There's, there's stories of our life like really, good, bad that have this sort of meeting or that sort of meeting this lesson, that lesson, or have no lesson whatsoever that we can think of at the moment. Just write it down. Inventory, your stories. Don't place judgment on them. Don't think too much. Don't read too much into it, just inventory your stories. So that's what I did. And now, so I probably did that 6, 7, 8 months ago. And so now, as I'm, you know, I meditated this morning. I did my A Course In Miracles work, which is basically, you know, the way. So the literature I read now to tap into source higher power the infinite intelligence, God, I don't care, call it whatever you want, good order get ordered the orderly direction.

Mischa Z: 07:04 But those that the stories are popping up and into this presentation. Who knows where the presentation goes, maybe it's for a webinar, maybe it's for, I don't know. It's maybe I create a course. And so I need stories to, to, you know, to emphasize points within the course. Or there's just all of these cool reasons for it. But it's all percolating and, and coming together and I just think it's so cool. Hey, follow the instructions. Don't think too much into it. You don't need to know why or believe it, just do it. And then when the right time, the results from those actions will, will manifest and that's what's happening. It's super fun. Anyway, I, you know, it's super fun. What do people say, visualize it as though it's happened, then you can, then you'll, your subconscious will grow to that direction. And you can actually feel the feelings now, which I was, as I was walking, it was beautiful. And so now when it happens, I'll already be moving on to bigger things or maybe bigger is not the right word. That implies ego in my mind to new fun things from there. Anyway, I could go on and on about this. I'm trying to be mindful of time, love to all. Follow the instructions of the plan that is being handed to you. Whether that's for me, Russell Brunson or somebody else. Trust the process, make it happen one day at a time. Love to all. I'm out.

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I'm inspired for success by Braven Grant the 21 year old speaker at Funnel Hacking Live.  He had the illusion of overnight success.  But if you paid attention you saw how he had been working hard for the past few years...  and so was prepared for when his preparation meets opportunity.  In the form of Russell Brunson.

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Transcript: Mischa Z: 00:01 The inspiration for the new, for the new direction for the what's the term I was looking for. I said it in an email to my list...course correction. Yes course, correction, the course correction of what I'm up to entrepreneurial wise. That inspiration for the course correction continues to be super juicy and just continue to flow through. I literally, as I was walking... Anybody ever listened to Kiss there's that song God Of Thunder? So it was playing God Of Thunder. For whatever reason Kiss has been on my newsfeed. You know, the Google news, I've been just checking out old rock and roll due to my, due to the state of my long flowing locks. And,uso the Google news feed has definitely picked up on that. So I just get, you know, all the,uold guy, retirement bands flowing through Kiss being one of them.

Mischa Z: 01:16 One of them loved Kiss in my youth. So I was just listening to God Of Thunder. And I was thinking as I was, my mind, went to me having an opportunity to speak on the, at, at a Funnel Hacking Live. Any of you funnel hackers out there. I know at least a few of you would love to speak on that stage. Wouldn't you? Especially to perhaps have it happen seemingly overnight. I think that's, that's an interesting thing. Uh Brevon spoke at the 2021 funnel hiking live, which I was just at, unfortunately, as I record this, I cannot remember Braven's last name (Grant, Braven Grant), but Braven sells some sort supplements, creatine products and a bunch of other stuff. And track him down. Google him Braven Funnel Hacking Live. I'm sure his last name will pop up and then you can track down his, his website and all that stuff. But super cool young man, 21, 2, 3, something like that, you know, married a couple years has a brand new baby and clearly passionate about what he does.

Mischa Z: 02:50 He's got a mission, you know, to serve. To grow a company. And he's all in. And he basically, I don't know, met Russell Brunson a year and a half ago. I can't remember the exact story. And then all of a sudden, yes. At the last Funnel Hacking Live, that's what it was 2020. I think it was you know, he went to, it had a vision of, you know, speaking on the stage. Printed out a picture of it, slapped it up on his wall. Carried it around in his pocket, you know, this vision of him, however, whatever the picture represented of him. You know, getting his award, speaking on stage, the funnel hiking live stage and you know, was... Next thing, you know, there he is a year and a half later doing said things getting is Two Comma Club Award. And not only that speaking in front of thousands of people and doing a great job, by the way. Braven, if you're happen to be to listening to this, you crushed it. Just so much grace and, and, and such a humble young man.

Mischa Z: 04:19 When I was at age, I could talk a lot of smack, not execute very much, actually. That's not true. I had I was on the tail end of my pro snowboarding career. Which meant that I had sponsors and lots of free gear and free tickets everywhere, and everything was paid for, except I had no disposable income as a result. I did have to sleep in my car a few times. As I was touring the west, the Western states, Colorado, Utah, Utah, Idaho, California, snowboarding, and Wyoming snowboarding away. This was the 86 to 91 and it was snowboarding. Oh my gosh. So many great tales to tell them that regard. However, I, I was willing to do the work to be a pro. I was not as physically gifted as others, but I can tell you work is a big part of it.

Mischa Z: 05:27 Anyway then I ended up in college, did fine in college. There was, I still had some heavy arrogance if you'd have thrown me on stage at that point in my life. Oh my gosh. I don't know if I had handled it as gracefully as young Braven. I guess that's my point. So Braven,uthe illusion of,uis the word fly by night or overnight success or those things, right? Like, like Braven, you know, just meets Russell Brunson the year before grows his business through COVID the next Funnel Hacking Live he's onstage speaking. And so the illusion of overnight success was there, but it turns out young Braven had been working hard, very hard on his business for a number of years already. By the time he stumbles across Funnel Hacking Live 2020, I think it was maybe it was 2019. I don't know that you, you get what I'm trying to say.

Mischa Z: 06:45 So, so what happens is Braven's got the worth work ethic. He's got the inspiration, he's visualized where he wants to be. And then he's doing all the stuff bumps into Russell Brunson and the tools, the process, the systems he needs fall into place. Russell Brunson and funnel hacking is the perfect tool for him, the perfect process. And he has instant success supposedly. But clearly, phew, phew, pay attention. You can see that, that he what's luck. Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Braven had created his own luck and was prepared for his opportunity when it fell in his lap. So he was by no means a overnight wonder. That wasn't really the main message I wanted to share here. What I wanted to share was I loved the visualization piece of his story. He just, it was so cool to see how he, you know, he had his in effect a dream board or whatever you want.

Mischa Z: 08:10 However you want to say it. Then he printed out a picture of the visual aid of himself. I can't remember what the picture was. That's why I'm saying it this way. But he had a picture that represented himself getting that Two Comma Club Award. Which means you've generated a million dollars in revenue in a calendar year. You've and have him speaking on stage. And, and so I didn't even try to visualize, this is what I'm trying to say, man. I just was listening to Kiss God Of Thunder. And and I was like, that's my entry song for when I'm speaking on the Funnel Hacking Live Stage.

New Speaker: 08:57 That's, that's what I'm going to walk on the stage too. And the vision just came so strong. And then,uyou know, a presentation started building in my mind, it's actually, this has been happening for a few days. All the, all the, the, the stories to tell the, the, you know, the, how I learned it and earned it. All this stuff has just been percolating in my brain. But originally I was thinking the first round, the first song was going to be Cashmere by Led Zeppelin, just cause I've got the Roger Plant locks going on. And so immediately at Funnel Hacking Live, when we're doing all these visualization exercises. Me coming on to stage two, a Led Zeppelin song just was clear as a bell. And,uand so I'm holding onto that and letting that flow and, and perhaps it's got a thunder now. And then right before I was recording this episode and listening to God Of Thunder. I even had the visual of, of the, of the rockstar hair flip and thinking, you know, thanking the audience for,uletting me indulge my rock star fantasies. Anyhow, ain't nothing wrong with a little bit of visualization I suppose. All right. I'm done. Love to all.

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Robert Drysdale, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu IBJJF and ADCC World Champion, MMA Fighter, TEDx Speaker, and owner of Zenith Jiu-Jitsu talks the power of community, competition, and humility.
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Transcript: 0:00:05.9 Mischa Z: Welcome back, everybody, to the Tools For A Good Life Summit. And right now I would like to introduce to you Robert Drysdale, world champion, a BJJ Brazilian jiu-jitsu master. Is "master" an appropriate word or...

0:00:25.6 Robert Drysdale: I go by coach or just Rob. I'm very simple.

0:00:29.9 Mischa Z: Okay, fantastic.

0:00:31.3 Robert Drysdale: No need for a lot of titles, it's all good.

0:00:33.4 Mischa Z: I love it. Fantastic. That's one thing that drew me to you for this summit. Real quick, I'm gonna read your bio. Okay?

0:00:41.7 Robert Drysdale: Sure.

0:00:42.4 Mischa Z: Fantastic. Born in the USA, from a Brazilian mother and American father, and having spent his life between these two countries, Robert Drysdale remains the only American born to have ever won both the IBJJF and ADCC world championships, the two most prestigious tournaments in all of jiu-jitsu. Furthermore, he has also cultivated a career in MMA, both as a fighter and as a coach. The author also holds a bachelor's degree in History, as well as a long-held passion for this discipline. He lives in Las Vegas, Nevada, where he teaches Brazilian jiu-jitsu and MMA. And you are the co-founder of the international team, Zenith Jiu-Jitsu, and you are the father of two girls. So I've got two friends... I'm 53, I have two friends late 40s, and as I was putting together this summit, and really, I think there's so many great modalities out there to help us as we get a little bit older in age, perhaps an existential crisis, whatever it is. But there's all these great modalities, and I think Brazil...

0:02:04.5 Mischa Z: Train going by, if you heard that. Brazilian jiu-jitsu and the martial arts, judo, are so powerful. So I've got these two buddies, both who are pushing 50, both who have started Brazilian jiu-jitsu or BJJ, for anyone who's listening and is unfamiliar with that term BJJ, and it's transformed their lives. One's been doing it for about a year and a half, and one's been doing it for about three years, so I was like, "I definitely need to get somebody on the summit who can speak to it, and why not somebody who's been in it his whole life?" And that's how I came to you. I have a couple of questions to start with. First off, can you speak to that just a little bit?

0:03:06.5 Robert Drysdale: I think there's a variety of reasons why Brazilian jiu-jitsu is appealing to a whole plethora of people at different walks of life, everything from children, to mothers, to competitive athletes, to dads, to people who've never practiced any sports or they never really felt a calling to martial arts in general, maybe people that think that fighting was despicable, all of a sudden they're madly in love with Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I think there's a variety of things that come into play here, and it helps explain why Brazilian jiu-jitsu is such a worldwide phenom. I think, firstly, it has to do with we like challenges, we like things that are difficult enough for us to be able to overcome them, and I think Brazilian jiu-jitsu is like you're overcoming yourself one day at a time. Think of a video game that you play that you can beat the first time you play it, it's not very challenging, you're probably not gonna play it again. But if it's something that is constantly challenging you, if it's something that's constantly, there's new layer after layer after layer, and you can't defeat it, now you become more challenged by it, and that's what competition is. We are obsessed with competition, we enjoy competition. And competition is good, and there's a healthy way to be competitive, and I think jiu-jitsu is one of the many arenas where you can exercise that healthy competition.

0:04:25.3 Mischa Z: Yeah.

0:04:26.1 Robert Drysdale: I also think that people have become highly addicted to the endorphins from training, physical endorphins, and they get, some people call it a "runner's high" or whatever high you experience while you're working out, you experience that in jiu-jitsu as well. Granted, and I am biased here, I'm the first one who admit it, jiu-jitsu is chess with your body, it's highly, highly intellectual. It drives me crazy. It's a bit of a peeve of mine when people think of fighters as these brutes that don't know how to think, and that's why they fight. I cannot think of anything more intellectual than fighting, I really can't. It is one of the most extreme displays of human intelligence.

0:05:04.7 Mischa Z: Yes, yes.

0:05:05.9 Robert Drysdale: It's just that it's not seen that way for a variety of reasons. It's not sold that way, because if you pitch fighting that way, it might be less interesting to show business, but I've known these guys and some of these guys have never read a book in their lives, but they are some of the most intelligent people you've ever met in your life.

0:05:21.3 Mischa Z: Yeah, can I say something to that real quick?

0:05:23.9 Robert Drysdale: Sure.

0:05:24.6 Mischa Z: Sure. So my one buddy, Kevin, he said that, he started a couple of years ago, but he said, initially, it's the physicality of it, but then you realize really quickly, it's the mental game, it's the mental process, it's the strategy, that chess, and the more... If you play chess, for example, the more you know, the more you realize you don't know and you need to know, kind of a thing. Is that a good analogy or...

0:05:52.7 Robert Drysdale: It is infinite, it's infinite. We often compare it to chess. And I remember I had a friend of mine in college, back in Brazil, where he was a chess master, highly ranked, and we would argue, we'd always debate which one was more complex, chess or jiu-jitsu, and I'd win every time, 'cause you can't... Because chess is two-dimensional, and it's only got a few pieces, and the pieces only do so many moves. Human movement is three-dimensional, it has infinite movements, infinite movements. You add the emotional stress of fighting, that does... It's very few things in life can replicate that. I imagine war would be something even more stressful. I imagine a real life-threatening situation will be very stressful like that. But fighting is extremely stressful, and you gotta manage it, and it's not... It's the reason why most people are terrified of it, 'cause just the thought of it freaks them out.

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0:06:44.5 Robert Drysdale: Knowing that it's 7:00 PM on a Saturday, you're gonna have to step into a cage and fight against someone who's been trained their whole life to knock your head off. It's a terrifying thought, and it really is. And I have no issues admitting this, I was terrified every single time I stepped in there. You can't show it.

0:07:01.3 Mischa Z: Really?

0:07:02.1 Robert Drysdale: Oh, absolutely, absolutely, on the verge of crying, I was so scared. On the verge of crying. Actually, I would hope to get injured like the week of the fight, so I didn't have to fight, 'cause there's a part of me that was hoping I would get injured, so I didn't have to fight. That's how scary... And that's intelligence, that is intelligence. People don't see it, but it's to manage that, it's not for everyone. So, I think that... And then you add the physical element to it, it's extremely physical. They say that wrestling is one of the hardest things you'll do in life, and it's true, like trying to take someone down and then trying to stand back up, and you're holding them down. I think CrossFit is easy, and I'm not trying to discredit anyone, but, physical terms, and you can't compare... And then there's a technical layers to it. It's just layer after layer after layer.

0:07:50.7 Mischa Z: Layer after layer.

0:07:51.9 Robert Drysdale: 23 years of doing this, and I'm not even scraping the surface.

0:07:55.4 Mischa Z: That's incredible.

0:07:55.6 Robert Drysdale: And it really is infinite. I really feel like fighting, in general, is not appreciated as something that requires an enormous amount of intelligence and intellect in general. It's just that our definition of intelligence is so narrow, it's so limiting that we don't see it that way, we see two meatheads trying to knock each other out. But there's beauty in that, too, there's value. You're trying to defeat your opponent. It's like looking in through a mirror, you're trying to look through that mirror, trying to move faster than the mirror moves, and I think it's beautiful in many, many different levels. But it's something I think a lot of people miss, they only see a bar fight. I don't see a bar fight, I see a ceremony.

0:08:37.2 Mischa Z: Yeah. I wanna speak to two things in that regard, and one is, my buddy, Kevin, I'm gonna drop their names 'cause they're gonna be so excited that they're collaterally involved in this. [laughter] But, Kevin said it's the most rigorous exercise for him, and that it beats the hell out of him, and he loves it. At 50 years old, he's like, "Yeah, it just kicks my ass, and it feels so good," and so there's that physical outlet, which is so powerful, especially as we get older, I think, to keep that movement, and just for longevity. It's so powerful. But my other buddy, Fernando, it transformed his relationships with people, and specifically with his girlfriend that he's been with for a while, and it was... He was talking about how in the judo, the Brazilian jiu-jitsu, how it's very meditative on one hand 'cause your mind has to focus, which is awesome, and then also the patience that it teaches you and the new perspective that it teaches him, and how he was able to bring that out and find patience with a new perspective with his relationships. Can you speak to that a little bit or is that your experience as well or...

0:10:03.4 Robert Drysdale: It does help on a personal level, too. There's so many lessons. I often say that every lesson you're gonna learn in life, you're gonna learn it on the mats first. It's just that you may or may not see them, but they're all there. But there's something about... I think especially when it comes to men and women relationships, 'cause we're living in an age where we're taught that everything is exactly the same, and I don't believe that. I think that women expect a certain behavior from a man and vice versa, and I think that's the way nature is. I'm not suggesting there are fixed gender roles, but I think women do like a strong masculine figure. You just talk to them, and they'll tell you, like, "Who are you attracted to?" And they're gonna define what they're attracted to, and it fits a certain profile. There are exceptions; there might be women out there who love men who cry all the time, for example, or who show weakness or can't fix a door or can't open the door for them or can't carry groceries. These things might exist, but I think for the most part, women like a man being a man. And one thing that jiu-jitsu will do for you, or fighting in general, well, I think I'm biased towards jiu-jitsu, and obviously that's my background, but I think any kind of combat will do, is it does give you a certain level of confidence about being... You learn... Because you're gonna lose, you're gonna lose, you're gonna win.

0:11:23.8 Robert Drysdale: I think that martial arts combat, the strife, the struggle, is something that, it puts you exactly where you need to be confidence-wise. I'll give you an example. Children that walk into my gym, they have the insecure child, right, the child that can't make eye contact, he's bullied, he's made fun of, he never wins at any sport, so he doesn't try. Parents bring them into jiu-jitsu as a last hope, last resort, "This my child is doomed." And what happens is that child, initially they lose and they lose, but every now then they win, and then they go, "Oh, wow, I didn't know I could do that, I just went around." And then they lose and lose again, and then they win another one. So what it does is as they win, as they lose, it brings their confidence level up to where it should be because they walked in they were very insecure. They're not over-confident because they still lose, but the wins, they teach them that they are more capable than they thought they were.

0:12:17.4 Robert Drysdale: And then you get the child who is the bully, you get the child who is the over-confident child, perhaps because he's bigger or he's more confident, and he just walks in and he acts like he's gonna own the room, and then he walks into jiu-jitsu and he gets tapped by the nerdy kid with glasses. He loses a round after round after round to the kid, and now he's shocked, he's shocked that he just lost, like, "I didn't think that was possible." So, two things happen to the bully, he either leaves or he changes. He adapts and he goes, "Wait a second, I'm not as good as I thought I was." So it brings him down from that state of over-confidence, exactly where he's supposed to be, and then the bullied and the bully end up more or less in the same place, exactly as it's supposed to be. And when you find that happy place, you'll see the flaws in yourself, you'll see the weaknesses, but you'll see the strength too, and then you walk away with that, with a certain degree of confidence th

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