On the week that the Prime Minister announced his 5 promises to voters, Science Minister George Freeman joins Christopher Hope to give his suggestions for 5 reasons to be cheerful, including getting rid of EU red tape, focusing on the "10% daft regulations" first.

Also on the podcast, Shadow Cabinet Minister Nick Thomas-Symonds reacts to Sir Keir Starmer's reappropriation of the Brexit slogan "Take Back Control", and, after writing a biography of former Labour leader Wilson, what the current Labour leader could learn from his 60s equivalent.

Plus former Tory MP Brooks Newmark on how he's been inspired by figures like Sir Nicholas Winton and Oskar Schindler to help transport Ukrainians to safety.

Harold Wilson, by Nick Thomas-Symonds

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