As a newly trained Certified Grief Educator, Karolyn has insights into the complex topic of grieving. On this show, Lise interviews Karolyn about what she learned during the certification program and how to apply those strategies to daily living. Lise also shares her thoughts on loss and grief. Karolyn was trained by world-renowed grief expert David Kessler who has authored many books on this topic, including books with Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, a pioneer in the area of death and dying.

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