Five years ago, Saadya had a 6.5 gram mushroom journey that changed the course of our lives.
The ripple effects are still unfolding today.
Over the years, we’ve shared many aspects of our healing journey—therapy, communication, attachment, intimacy, spirituality, masculinity, femininity, polarity, self-awareness, and the inner work that transformed our relationship.
We’ve also spoken openly about psychedelics, plant medicine, healing, and consciousness.
But if we’re going to tell the story of how we got here, then this part of the story deserves attention commensurate with the role it played.
Not because psychedelics are the whole story.
But because they were a critical part of the story.
A critical ingredient in the healing and transformation of our marriage and our lives.
In this conversation, we explore the role mushrooms, MDMA, and other psychedelic medicines played in our individual healing, our marriage, and our understanding of transformation itself.
This is not an episode about convincing anyone to take psychedelics.
It’s a conversation about healing.
About consciousness.
About marriage.
About the tools available to us in this generation.
And about what becomes possible when we’re willing to explore the full spectrum of support available for our growth and evolution.
Together, we explore:
• The mushroom journey that changed the course of our marriage
• What years of inner work gave us—and what psychedelics offered that was different
• The difference between insight and direct experience
• Psychedelics, consciousness, and spirituality
• The role these medicines played in our healing
• The controversy around “shortcuts”
• Why we often resist the very support that could help us most
• The assumptions we carry about suffering, growth, and transformation
• Why every generation may be given exactly the medicine it needs
Whether psychedelics are part of your path or not, we hope this conversation expands your sense of what’s possible—not only in healing, but in marriage, consciousness, and becoming more fully yourself.