I heard a turquoise-level (Ken Wilbur's actualized levels, Integrated level) interviewed on NPR yesterday and I wondered if anyone could actually hear and understand what he was saying about how everything is interconnected as to how COVID-19 got started and such a foothold in the world. Environmental decline, decimated natural habitat, overpopulation, etc. all worked together to create this pandemic. I'm so happy to hear an integrated person being interviewed, but with all the lower level people out there who can't understand those in the higher levels, I wonder if his message reached very many people. Here's to more interviews with integrated and super-integrated people! 10% of the population is all that's needed to become a turquoise and start changing how the world acts and responds to crises and issues troubling us today. We can't change anything by just looking at the symptoms. An integrated, holistic approach is the key to making lasting and effective change.