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Paul and Stephen’s interest in history is deep and windy, so who better to get a riveting lesson from than award-winning documentarian, Ken Burns.

Hear why the master auteur has wanted to tell the tragic story of the American Buffalo for 30 years, and trace the path of its near extinction in the late 19th century. Was the buffalo saved by the captive gates of zoos? What is man’s moral responsibility to nature in its quest towards advancement and a global economy? And as savior and destroyer, is man truly the most dangerous species on earth? And it wouldn’t be a Chinwag without a detour into obscure presidential facts, conspiracy theories, philosophical musings on certainty and doubt, and why skepticism is as necessary to storytelling as faith. And of course, what is history anyway?

Bonus: What quote has Ken Burns used in 3 films?

Extra Bonus: Stay tuned ‘til the end to hear Paul’s eerie encounter with a herd of buffalo as he changed a flat tire in Custer State National Park.

Paul Giamatti is an award-winning actor and producer. Stephen Asma is a professor and author specializing in the philosophy of science, religion, and art. 

Ken Burns has been making documentary films for almost fifty years. He’s been honored with dozens of major awards, including sixteen Emmy Awards, two Grammy Awards and two Oscar nominations. American Buffalo, and all of Ken's films, are available to stream on the PBS app.

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