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Excerpt of the Podcast:
John Kremer:
“I think you have been fighting, you could say, that your mind gets captured by the duality of thinking that every arising of thinking is not reality, and you actually say it's not a mind-making. The thoughts, they just arise. I'm not quite sure how they arise, maybe you've identified that now, but you're assuming, you're saying that if they do arise, you got to allow for the totality of that arising.”
Louis Koster:
“Yeah, yeah. Yes, so I may not speak to all aspects of what you just said, but I think it's worthwhile that one of the things that you said, I think, is very much worthwhile speaking to, and that is if you just take a moment, and let's say you close your eyes or you just, what you call, you relax or something like that, you all let it be, so to speak. “
“What you become conscious of is that... well, there is merit in becoming aware of that which allows for the arising of the thinking. We have this relationship with the thinking like, "Oh well, there's a thought and let me evaluate whether it's true or not, or consider whether I will act on it or not." Have you ever thought where they come from, so to speak?”
“You base your whole life on the thinking, on what comes up in your consciousness, so if you take a moment to become aware of that which allows for the arising of the thinking, and what I mean with that... so in my diary I spelled "that" with a capital, because it's... “That” is beyond language, but “that” where there is no name for, which we can't describe inside of which the thinking arises, that is consciousness.”
“So when you become aware of that which allows for the thinking, you then become aware of being conscious, and when you are, you realise that you are therefore a hundred percent responsible for whatever experience the thinking might give you.”
“As well, it dispels the whole notion of an outside world, because it is the thinking that creates this idea that you are responding to something, while the something is part of the thinking. That is the duality of the thinking.”
John Kremer:
“In essence you're saying that all these thoughts that come up are in some sense of your making, but you don't have to interact with them. They're not the reality, they're just what arises.”
Louis Koster:
“They create an experience, yes.”
John Kremer:
“And it's not from the outside, so everything that thoughts have, the feelings, the emotions, all the... you got to do this and all that…”
...”they're all part of... you don't perceive them as coming from the outside, so you don't have to respond to them.”
Louis Koster:
“That's also true, yes. They arise in your consciousness, in my consciousness, and so that insight in itself will have you absolutely stop complaining. It will interrupt all... well, whatever you got. You might have gone round that the world is not behaving itself to your liking. That insight, there is no room for anything of that. You're completely... I'm completely responsible for any aspect of my experience because they are of my own making, all of it.”
John Kremer:
“But it's not an intentional making, it's just what arises.”
Louis Koster:
“Yeah, exactly. Now, what that stops is this interaction that we might have with people, with what the thought is pointing to, as the cause of our sense of dissatisfaction, et cetera, and when we do, you have more opportunity to just see it for what it is, because it is the engagement that keeps us blind. It obscures our vision to see it exactly for what it is. It's just a thought, nothing else. It's not reality.”
John Kremer:
“Does that mean there's no reality?”
Louis Koster:
“That's not what I said. It's just a thought.”
John Kremer:
“It's just a thought.”
Louis Koster:
“Yeah, it's not my true... and the experience that it creates, that's not my true reality, no. It's just a thought and it is an experience that it creates, that the thinking creates an experience of some sort, but it's not my true reality.”
John Kremer:
“The true reality is what happens once you get past that when you fall into being?”
“Or however you want to describe it.”
Louis Koster:
“Yes.”
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Dr Louis Koster, distinguished humanitarian, poet, bestselling author served for over ten years as a medical doctor for “Doctors Without Borders” and other humanitarian organizations in trouble spots across the globe. For his humanitarian efforts, Dr. Koster has received numerous awards and has appeared on radio, television, and news shows.
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