Talking Walking

Author and long-distance walker Stephen Ford and Andrew Stuck are walking through woodland beside open fields with traffic on the A3 rushing past half a mile away.

It’s not the first time that Stephen and Andrew have met to record an interview. Six weeks ago they had walked across Esher Common together and much to Andrew’s embarrassment he discovered that his voice recorders’s hard drive was full to capacity, so much of the interview wasn’t actually recorded.

Stephen forgave him this ‘schoolboy error’ and this time proposed that they walk on common closer to Claygate.  As you will discover from their conversation, there’s a necklace of publicly accessible common in this part of Surrey, that is much frequented by dog walkers and joggers. The interview opens with Stephen talking about where it is they are walking. 21’59” 10.3MB

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It is the first time that the 4 year Walking Art and Local Communities project partners have met in person and the excitement is palpable. Developing the partnership and writing a successful proposal to the EU for funding to support Walking arts has taken quite a few years.

Andrew Stuck is with Fred Adam one of the team from Gigacircus, the French partners in this pan European project. Fred and Andrew have met before and they have known each other for several years both sharing an interest in geolocated media, sound walks and digital storytelling 

They are not exactly sure of their whereabouts having taken a cable car to a scenic point above the regional city of Guimaraes in north east in Portugal. They are in luck as they begin their conversation just as a church bell strikes.

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Andrew Stuck and Sinwah Lai have been in Psarades in north-western Greece attending the Walking Arts Encounter where the temperature hasn’t dropped much below 40°C. What it means is that Andrew interviews walking artists, either in the shade or as late into the evening as possible. Fortunately, the days are long, but the heat is exhausting.

Both Sinwah and Andrew have been feeling the heat as they set out from her guesthouse on a short walk. Sinwah has been to Psarades before and has returned because she has fond memories. Sinwah is a Chinese artist from Hong Kong, but she’s travelled quite a bit including to study in Taipei in Taiwan and to Utrecht in the Netherlands. She hadn’t been back to Hong Kong, but now feels it’s the time for her to do so, to try to establish a community of Walking Artists there. 18’54” 8.9MB

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Andrew Stuck planned meeting up with Australian Kim Goldsmith sometime in advance, knowing that she would be returning from a residency on Skye with her partner and would only have a short time in London. They were staying in a hotel just south of Kings Cross, so Andrew met them there, with the intention of finding quiet spaces nearby in which to record an interview. Andrew accompanied Kim on a walk towards the Camley Street Nature reserve and Old Saint Pancras Churchyard, both of which he assumed would be quiet, calm spaces.

Kim is a sound recordist and a digital storyteller, and considers herself an environmental artist, like others, whom Andrew has recorded who have a practice in sound, it would seem inevitable that wherever they go sounds and noises intrude on their conversation. The interview with Kim was no exception, as you will discover.

The good news is that Kim took it in very good spirits! What could possibly go wrong? 22’58” 10.8 MB

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Andrew Stuck has travelled to Wolverhampton to meet Daniella Turbin, whose walking art practice includes drawing and photography, to talk about her year long project “A Place to Return To”. We take a walk for an hour beside a canal that runs from Wolverhampton to Stoke-on-Trent. For Daniella, this is just a short walk, as starting in May 2022 she began walking alone for 367 days through the whole of Britain on a route that touched every county and would link up with other walking artists, with the overall intention of finding out more about the country since the pandemic. 

Her year long adventure, apparently went without mishap, unlike their walk beside the canal. During their walk Andrew’s recorder stopped and they were unsure when it had stopped, so tried to remember what they may have already discussed. They passed through a group of men who were taking drugs and drinking alcohol and were overtaken by another man, wheeling a giant tractor tyre. Intrusive industrial sounds from the neighbouring warehouses interrupted their conversation but they were lucky as they occasionally entered tunnels in which the ambience changed significantly, and they were able to talk without raising their voices. 26’57” 12.6MB

Photo credit: Images from the exhibition by David Rowan

‘Women walking, The City, at Night’ is an initiative begun in the last three years by Eléonore Ozanne. She and Andrew Stuck are walking briskly on a grit-covered path that runs beside a lake in the resort town of Banyoles, 20 km north of Girona in Spain. They have only recently met as they are both attending a Walking Arts and Relational Geographies conference. 22’01” 10.3MB

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Andrew Stuck has agreed to meet adventurer Alastair Humphreys at Swanscombe station and walk with him towards the Thames estuary to talk about his new book “Local”. To be honest, Andrew has never been to Swanscombe station, and as he found out later, neither had Alastair.

It is an area of the estuary that is less well trodden. They certainly didn’t encounter many people on foot, however, Andrew was fairly confident that in Alastair’s company they wouldn’t get lost, as Alastair has walked the Empty Quarter, cycled round the world and rowed across the Atlantic. So surely a walk of a couple of miles to the river wouldn’t be their undoing?

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Andrew Stuck is with Greek dramaturg, Anasthasia Polychronidou, at the Walking Art Encounter in Prespes, in western Macedonia and they are trying to keep out of the sun.  There is not a lot of shade, but they’ve discovered that if they walk in a circuit around the local chapel, at least two of the sides of the building offer them a little respite from the extreme heat. 

“The Shared and the Personal”, Anastasia’s recent work focuses on the socio-political aspects of performance, particularly for women artists, in public spaces in her native city of Thessaloniki. The interview opens with Andrew asking her, about what has brought her to Prespes. 21’54” 10.3MB

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Photo credits: Feature image – Andrew Stuck, Gallery centre – Yiannis Ziogas; Others – WAC23

Only since Covid has Tamsin Grainger discovered Walking art, but in that short time she’s made two Soundwalks, which have been shortlisted for the Sound Walk September Award and she has made many other works.

A Shiatsu practitioner, she bartered  treatments for home stays, on long-distance walks across Europe and became known on the Camino for helping with pulled muscles and tired legs. You can’t help but be inspired by the story she tells. 25’40” 12MB

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Andrew Stuck is with Mick Douglas, a self-confessed, long-distance solo hiker. He has worked as an artist researcher into creative practice at RMIT University in Melbourne, Australia, for three decades. Much of his work was around the interaction of people within modes of transport, comparing practices in cities in Australia to cities in India.

We are walking along the uneven shingle beach of the Great Prespa Lake in western Macedonia in north west Greece, as Mick has come to present a piece of work at the Walking Arts Encounters there. 

He’s here to talk about and demonstrate a piece he developed for an unusual festival in New Zealand in which he takes a solo hike for four days within a shipping container. If that’s not unusual enough, he goes on to tell Andrew how he is hosting and ghosting walks around a 40 acre block of land. He is developing an ecological practice in which he invites people to engage with their surroundings in part, listening to commentary that he’s created as a sound walk. 25’42’ 12MB

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