Aaron Tartakovsky is the Co-Founder and CEO of Epic Cleantec, a leading startup revolutionizing onsite water reuse and sustainability in the built environment. His journey blends bold innovation with a legacy of science and policy. Raised by a Soviet-trained rocket scientist father, Aaron grew up with cutting-edge engineering in the household. Aaron went on to shape federal policy before co-founding Epic Cleantec, initially inspired by tackling a lighter challenge: after his co-founder received a ticket for not clearing up his dog’s poop, they imagined a device to disintegrate waste. That idea evolved, and work with the Gates Foundation’s Reinvent the Toilet Challenge led to Epic’s current mission. Today, Aaron leads Epic Cleantec to deploy water reuse systems in buildings, turning wastewater into reusable water, reducing costs, carbon, and reliance on aging infrastructure. Their clients include Salesforce Tower in San Francisco and other high-profile developments committed to water resilience and sustainability. He’s a vocal advocate for blending smart regulation, government partnerships, and technology to drive global water resilience.

(01:57) - Aaron's Journey to Epic Cleantec

(05:51) - How Epic Cleantec Revolutionizes Water Recycling for Buildings

(08:36) - The Gates Foundation & Public Reception

(14:10) - Real Estate's Water Infrastructure Challenges

(18:15) - Scaling Epic Cleantec

(21:26) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025.

(28:39) - Navigating Regulations and Politics

(36:29) Collaboration Superpower: Aaron's grandfather

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Epic Cleantec
➡️ Aaron Tartakovsky on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

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David Esber is the Co-Founder and Chief Commercial Officer of Enviz, a platform revolutionizing how unbuilt properties are designed, marketed, and sold. Frustrated by the limitations of blueprints and static renders, David launched Enviz in 2019 to enable immersive, 1:1 virtual and augmented reality walkthroughs that bring unbuilt spaces to life. Since then, Enviz has helped thousands of users, architects, developers, and homebuilders visualize, refine, and sell their projects with greater impact, saving time, reducing errors, and enhancing customer engagement. At Enviz, David leads sales, marketing, and operations, driving the company’s mission to empower 3D designers and shape the future of spatial visualization.

(01:42) – Understanding VR, AR, ER / MR
(02:51) – The Journey of Enviz
(04:28) – Real-Time 3D Visualization
(09:14) – The Future of AR
(20:05) – Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025.
(20:58) – Challenges & Costs
(22:30) – Trust in Pre-Development Sales
(26:33) – Targeting Architecture Firms & Large Clients
(28:54) – Sales Cycles & Client Criteria
(33:13) – Competition landscape & moats
(39:45) – Collaboration Superpower: David's dad & Jaron Lanier (VR founder, Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Enviz
➡️ David Esber on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Andrew Ackerman is the Head of REACH Labs at Second Century Ventures, the strategic venture arm of the National Association of Realtors® (NAR). Backed by NAR, SCV invests in early-stage Proptech and construction tech companies, providing them with access to a vast network of real estate professionals and industry expertise. A former entrepreneur, angel investor, and accelerator director at Dreamit Ventures, Andrew has backed 70+ startups and designed structured programs to help founders raise capital and close deals faster. He is also the author of “The Entrepreneur’s Odyssey,” a story-driven startup guide, and a frequent contributor to Forbes, Propmodo, and other leading publications.

(01:19) – Andrew Ackerman's Journey in PropTech
(03:06) – Evolution of the PropTech Landscape
(06:40) – The Role of REACH Labs, Second Century Ventures and NAR
(10:06) – Challenges in Real Estate Transactions
(13:00) – Venture Returns in PropTech
(21:01) – Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025.
(23:03) – Qualifying Investment Opportunities
(23:32) – Challenges in Portfolio Construction & Valuation Dilemmas
(30:00) – The Role of Venture Debt
(35:59) – The Entrepreneur's Odyssey

(29:22) - Collaboration Superpower: Richard Nixon

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit REACH Labs
➡️ Andrew Ackerman on LinkedIn
➡️ Read The Entrepreneur's Odyssey

💚 Feature:
➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Luis Poggi is the CEO and Co-Founder of HouseWhisper, a startup at the intersection of real estate and generative AI, building tools that transform how homes are marketed and sold. A seasoned tech executive with deep experience in product, marketing, and sales, Luis previously held leadership roles at Zillow and Expedia, where he helped scale industry-defining platforms in PropTech and travel.

Now focused on shaping the AI revolution in real estate, Luis blends entrepreneurial vision with hands-on execution. He also shares insights on AI and business strategy through his newsletter at substack.com/luispoggi.

(01:50) - Luis' Zillow journey & lessons

(02:53) - The Birth of House Whisper

(04:30) - The power of zero onboarding & personalization

(05:11) - AI Agents & the Future of Real Estate

(09:19) - Challenges & opportunities in AI for Real Estate Agents like Serhant

(14:09) - Distribution strategy

(16:29) - Will AI replace Real Estate agents like travel agents?

(17:48) - Feature: CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. See if you qualify and apply by emailing [email protected].

(19:14) - Avoiding the freemium pricing trap
(22:48) - Usage & retention: 8K+ paying agents
(29:22) - Collaboration Superpower: Andrej Karpathy (OpenAI Co-founder, Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit HouseWhisper
➡️ Luis Poggi on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Apply and see if you qualify by emailing [email protected]. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Jason Griffith is the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Synco, a centralized messaging platform designed to streamline communication for property management teams like LeFrak and Kaled Management. Synco addresses the challenges of fragmented communication channels by providing a real-time, collaborative environment that enhances operational efficiency across office staff, on-site teams, and external vendors. Prior founding Synco, Jason co-founded SiteCompli, a compliance automation platform utilized across over 1 million residential units and 70% of Class A office properties in New York City. SiteCompli became part of Inhabit, a collective of property management software companies backed by Insight Venture Partners and Goldman Sachs.

(01:35) – Jason's Journey from SiteComply to Synco
(04:48) – The chaos of property management communication
(07:25) – Centralization & adoption challenges
(10:24) – Integration & real-world use cases
(23:59) – Feature: CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. See if you qualify and apply by emailing [email protected].
(24:56) – Business model & growth
(27:08) – ROI & future communication trends
(31:14) – Venture scale business & exit strategies
(34:22) – Zach & Jason origin story
(37:16) – Advise for entrepreneurs & creative marketing
(39:42) – Collaboration Superpower: Bob Faith (Greystar CEO), Stewart Butterfield (Slack Co-founder) & Jeff Bezos

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Synco
➡️ Jason Griffith on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Apply and see if you qualify by emailing [email protected]. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Benjamin Kanner is the Chief Operating Officer and Co-Founder of 3V Infrastructure, a company accelerating access to electric vehicle charging in multifamily, hospitality, healthcare, and commercial real estate. 3V eliminates the steep upfront capital and operational costs that have historically slowed the deployment of Level 2 EV chargers, enabling rapid, scalable infrastructure expansion. With over a decade of experience in founding, scaling, and exiting startups, Benjamin is a revenue-driven operator known for building high-performing teams and systems that drive growth. Prior to 3V, he led sales and strategy at Loop Global, where his go-to-market leadership resulted in the company’s highest-grossing quarter. He was also the founder and CEO of Worklete, an injury-prevention platform acquired by private equity, and has held leadership roles across fintech, SaaS, and sustainability-focused ventures. Passionate about doing well by doing good, Benjamin is committed to building solutions that make a measurable impact on the planet and society.

(02:57) – 3V Infrastructure intro & Ben's career journey
(05:12) – 3V's business model & market
(09:56) – 3V's competitive advantage & partnerships
(18:10) – Feature: CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. See if you qualify and apply by emailing [email protected].
(19:54) – No-cost Multifamily partnership deployment
(24:52) – Camden Property & Bridge Investment deals
(28:24) – Trade war impact on global EV market & competition
(34:10) – Collaboration Superpower: Bill Campbell (Trillion Dollar Coach, Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit 3V Infrastructure
➡️ Benjamin Kanner on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Apply and see if you qualify by emailing [email protected]. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Julius Nyanda is the Founder and CEO of HouseKeys, unlocking housing opportunity for cities, developers, homeowners, and renters. HouseKeys is a civic tech platform that helps local governments manage affordable and mixed-income housing programs across ownership, rental, and finance. Through its Program Marketplace, Julius and his team streamline administration and expand access to community-driven housing solutions, supporting cities like Beverly Hills, Morgan Hill, and San Francisco in delivering scalable, equitable outcomes.

(03:22) - Challenges in Affordable Housing Development
(06:10) - Housing policy incentives for Investors
(10:46) - HouseKeys Marketplace approach
(13:04) - The Economics of Affordable Housing
(14:10) - GovTech & VC Opportunities & Challenges
(22:37) - Feature: Blueprint 2025: The Future of Real Estate - Register now
(23:23) - California's New YIMBY Bills
(26:29) - AI & the Future of Housing Solutions
(37:07) - Collaboration Superpower: Robert F. Smith (CEO at Vista Equity Partners) & Jack Ma (Founder of Alibaba)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit HouseKeys
➡️ Julius Nyanda on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Mark Zurada is the COO and Co-Founder of PinPoint Analytics, an AI-powered platform transforming how public works projects are estimated and bid. PinPoint harnesses advanced algorithms and historical bid data to help contractors, municipalities, and engineering firms in the $200 Billion construction industry generate more accurate, competitive estimates with unmatched precision. At PinPoint, Mark leads daily operations, AI product development, data strategy, and go-to-market execution. He also drives sales, marketing, and customer acquisition, aligning product-market fit through deep analytics, customer interviews, and stakeholder feedback. With over a decade of experience as an entrepreneur, attorney, engineer, and consultant, Mark brings a cross-functional approach to solving complex challenges.

(01:29) - AI in public construction works

(02:36) - Challenges in public works bidding
(6:07) - Guesswork in construction

(08:17) Scaling AI solutions in local governments

(13:47) - Feature | Market Stadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis
(14:58) - Scaling construction estimates in highly localized space
(18:19) - Examples of bidding processes

(24:17) - AI's Impact on Public Spending and Efficiency

(28:20) - Feature: Blueprint 2025: The Future of Real Estate - Register now
(29:06) - Collaboration Superpower: Historical Figures

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit PinPoint Analytics
➡️ Mark Zurada on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Market Stadium - Book a demo: One-stop real estate data platform to optimize Multifamily & Single-family market analysis.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Julie Kheyfets is the CEO of Block Renovation, an AI-first marketplace platform revolutionizing the home renovation industry by connecting homeowners with contractors and streamlining project planning. She assumed the CEO role in January 2025, following seven years as the company's COO. ​Before joining Block, Julie led North American growth for Tractable, an AI company specializing in accident and disaster recovery solutions, where her efforts contributed to the company's valuation surpassing $1 billion. ​Beyond her professional achievements, Julie is an accomplished ultramarathon runner, having secured first place in the women's category at the Habanero Hundred in 2021. 

(01:13) - Challenges in home renovations

(02:31) - Julie's journey to Block

(03:43) - Building trust with AI & data

(05:49) - Contractor vetting process
(08:17) - Feature | Market Stadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis
(9:28) - An AI architect in every investor's & homeowner's pocket

(12:07) - Growth playbook

(16:34) - Industry Trends & Homeowner Mistakes
(20:11) - Homeowners & contractors :: Landlords & renters
(21:55) - Feature: Blueprint 2025: The Future of Real Estate - Register now

(23:45) - Business Model & Marketplace Trust

(25:51) - Collaboration Superpower: Courtney Dauwalter (Wiki) & Brian Chesky (Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Block Renovation
➡️ Julie Kheyfets on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Market Stadium - Book a demo: One-stop real estate data platform to optimize Multifamily & Single-family market analysis.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Frederik Hendriksen is the co-founder of Rensair, pioneering the world’s first air quality ecosystem to cut carbon, costs, and pollutants through next-generation ventilation technology. Rensair’s connected solutions optimize existing HVAC systems, reducing energy costs while delivering cleaner, healthier indoor air—without expensive infrastructure upgrades. Their tech traces back to Frederik’s father, a ventilation engineer, who originally developed a standalone air purification system for hospital operating rooms, and to help Frederik’s twin brother manage severe asthma. Inspired by this innovation, Frederik and his team are now hacking HVAC to tackle the climate crisis and transform building ventilation, ushering in a new era of carbon efficiency, cost savings, and clean indoor air.

(01:49) - The tech behind Rensair

(04:29) - Impact of HVAC on building energy consumption

(06:00) - Rensair's energy efficiency solutions
(13:31) - Feature | Market Stadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis

(17:51) - Business model & partnerships

(19:20) - Challenges & opportunities in Climate Tech

(24:23) - Leveraging AI for indoor air quality
(29:44) - Feature: Blueprint 2025: The Future of Real Estate - Register now
(31:55) - Greenland & Climate change

(34:16) - Collaboration Superpower: Niels Ryberg Finsen (Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Rensair
➡️ Frederik Hendriksen on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Market Stadium - Book a demo: One-stop real estate data platform to optimize Multifamily & Single-family market analysis.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.