Tango Tango

In a year defined by service, storytelling, and the power of community, Tango Tango’s first season put authentic veteran voices front and center. From Special Operations legends to storytellers preserving history, the series explored what it actually takes to translate military experience into meaningful civilian impact.

In this special Season 1 Veteran’s Day wrap-up, Supply Chain Now’s Scott Luton joins Tango Tango’s own Lloyd Knight to unpack the year: why active listening is a podcaster’s superpower, what organizations get wrong (and right) about veteran hiring, and how Season 2 will go bigger with 20 episodes and even more consequential stories.

Scott and Lloyd discuss the differences between Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day; three practical best practices for recruiting veteran talent; and highlights from standout episodes, from Pat McNamara’s raw, veteran-to-veteran conversation to Atomic Echoes, the PBS documentary that bridges U.S. servicemembers and survivors in Japan. They also preview Season 2 guests, live tapings, and crossovers with Supply Chain Now.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:38) Scott and Lloyd open the Veterans Day special

(00:52) Reflecting on their long-running friendship and work

(02:48) Best and worst chow hall stories

(09:08) Veterans Day vs. Memorial Day vs. Armed Forces Day

(12:26) Lloyd’s best practices for hiring veterans

(22:24) Lessons learned from hosting season one

(22:34) Mentorship, production support, and better listening

(24:53) Season one highlights and standout guests

(25:07) Behind the scenes of the Pat McNamara episode

(27:58) Exploring the Atomic Echoes documentary and its themes

(36:48) Season two previews and upcoming guests

(39:58) Simple, actionable ways to honor veterans

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about
• Subscribe to the With That Said newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/with-that-said-6966779254495723520/
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Learn more about Vetlanta: https://vetlanta.org
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. This episode was hosted by Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight and produced by Trisha Cordes, Joshua Miranda, and Amanda Luton. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/veterans-day-special-salute-tango-tango-season-1-1tt14

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes authors and filmmakers Karin Tanabe and Victoria Kelly to share the journey behind their PBS documentary Atomic Echoes. With family histories connected to both sides of World War II, Victoria’s grandfather served as a medic in Nagasaki and Karin’s grandfather was a Japanese soldier, the longtime friends uncover powerful stories of resilience, reconciliation, and hope.

They discuss how the project began, the challenges of interviewing veterans and survivors, and the intensive research required to capture voices long overlooked. From faith communities in Japan to American veterans who were never recognized for their post-war service, Atomic Echoes offers a respectful and human lens on history.

Karin and Victoria also reflect on the lessons they gained from the filmmaking process, from fundraising to finishing the project in just 11 months. More than a story about the past, their film underscores the urgent need for peace and the unifying power of storytelling today.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(02:05) Meet Victoria Kelly

(05:23) Meet Karin Tanabe

(10:45) The making of Atomic Echoes

(18:38) Challenges in finding veterans

(22:23) Veterans’ desire to share their stories

(23:19) Planting trees and symbolic acts

(25:07) Inspirational stories from the journey

(29:47) Learning from the filmmaking process

(32:23) The intersection of history and hope

Additional Links & Resources:

• Connect with Victoria Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-kelly-618b4314a/ 
• Connect with Karin Tanabe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karintanabe/ 
• Learn more about Atomic Echoes: https://www.pbs.org/show/atomic-echoes-untold-stories-from-world-war-ii/ 
• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/atomic-echoes-preseving-voices-hiroshima-nagasaki-1tt13

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Army veteran, Black Hawk pilot, author, and founder of Kingdom Operatives, Adam Jones. Adam shares his inspiring journey from growing up near Mario Andretti’s hometown in Pennsylvania to fulfilling his childhood dream of flying Black Hawks in the Army National Guard, overcoming unexpected challenges, and ultimately embracing a new calling to help others.

Adam opens up about the struggles he faced balancing military life, family, and personal identity, including the moments of deep inner conflict that nearly cost his marriage and life. Through powerful mentorship and faith, he found a path to healing and transformation, leading him to write his book "Weapons of Mass Deception" and build Kingdom Operatives to equip leaders and veterans to break free from silent struggles and build resilience.

From his military experiences to his commitment to sharing his story as a message of hope, Adam offers profound insights into overcoming drift, embracing purpose, and leading with authenticity both in and out of uniform.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(04:12) Growing up in Nazareth

(10:48) Penn State, ROTC, Army National Guard

(12:39) Becoming an Army Black Hawk pilot

(21:12) Meeting wife in DC and navigating changes

(26:22) Struggles with identity and family tension

(31:41) Anger, low points, and turning toward seeking help

(37:25) Mentorship, healing, and restoring relationships

(46:44) Founding Kingdom Operatives and helping veterans overcome struggles

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Connect with Adam Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leadwithadam
• Learn more about Kingdom Operatives: https://kingdomoperatives.com
• Join the Kingdom Operatives community: https://skool.com/kingdomoperatives
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/kingdom-operatives-1tt12

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Ross Dickman, CEO of Hire Heroes USA. Ross shares his journey from West Point to Army aviation, flying AH-64 Apaches with the 1st Cavalry Division, and deploying to Camp Taji, Iraq. He reflects on lessons from the cockpit, an aide-de-camp tour at the Army Safety Center, and a return to West Point as a TAC officer—experiences that shaped how he leads and how he thinks about life after service.

Now leading Hire Heroes USA, Ross focuses on employment as the foundation of post-service well-being. He talks about practical tools: clear, targeted resumes, mock interviews with real hiring managers, technology that keeps people in the process, and a push toward skills-based hiring, along with the power of partnerships and volunteers, and why providing free, lifetime career support to veterans and military spouses still drives his mission today.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:51) Ross Dickman’s background as veteran leader

(03:33) Childhood in a dedicated army family

(05:56) Overcoming challenges at West Point Academy

(12:44) Deciding on a long-term military career

(16:27) Training experiences in flight school and Apaches

(26:11) Career growth and responsibilities at Fort Hood

(30:01) West Point’s role in leadership development

(32:10) Lessons from civilian job search struggles

(37:35) Starting a career with Hire Heroes

(40:19) How Hire Heroes impacts veteran employment

(45:56) Daily leadership responsibilities at Hire Heroes

(49:09) Meeting the Secretary of Veterans Affairs

(51:25) Future goals for veteran career support

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Connect with Ross Dickman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossdickman 
• Learn more about Hire Heroes USA: https://www.hireheroesusa.com 
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/hire-heroes-usa-supporting-military-transition-1tt11

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Army Public Affairs Hall of Famer Gail McCabe. Gail shares her journey from working in Hollywood to becoming one of the Army’s first civilian broadcast journalists. She reflects on covering missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, including two attacks that earned her the Defense of Freedom Medal. Her stories, from tank competitions in Germany to humanitarian efforts in war zones, highlight the power of journalism to preserve history and honor sacrifice.

Now retired, Gail continues her storytelling through her company, CreativeMediaMatters. She talks about the emotional impact of covering conflict, the lessons she’s carried with her, and why helping others understand the human side of military service still drives her today.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:36) Meet Gail McCabe: A hall of famer’s journey

(01:07) Gail’s early life and love story

(02:23) From Hollywood to the Army

(05:14) Broadcast journalism and covering the military

(06:55) Covering sports and community stories

(08:41) Desert Storm and humanitarian missions

(17:16) The first defense of freedom medal

(28:44) Medical missions in remote areas

(30:56) An unexpected attack and its aftermath

(38:26) Humanitarian missions around the world

(42:41) Gail’s transition to civilian life

(52:36) Career highlights and recognitions

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Connect with Gail McCabe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gailmccabe/  
• Learn more about CreativeMediaMatters: https://creativemediamatters.com/ 
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/army-public-affairs-hall-fame-1tt10

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Navy veteran and entrepreneur Alex Witt, CEO of Battle Bars. From sleeping on metal grating in Iraq to building a multi-million-dollar logistics business—and walking away from it all—Alex shares the path that led him to start a mission-driven brand focused on integrity, nostalgia, and purpose.

Alex opens up about joining the Navy just before 9/11, the sense of guilt that pushed him to deploy, and the turning point that came after the tragic loss of a close friend. That heartbreak would eventually lead to a new purpose through Battle Bars, a company rooted in veteran values and a commitment to doing things differently.

From making sales calls and shipping orders himself to building partnerships with Barstool Sports and Lifetime Fitness, Alex offers powerful insights into what it takes to lead with passion, resilience, and authenticity on and off the battlefield.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:43) Chicago and Cubs fandom

(05:08) Military journey begins

(07:24) Bootcamp and 9/11 experience

(09:09) Deployment to Spain

(12:27) Transition to mobile security

(13:17) Deployment to Iraq

(17:25) Post-military career beginnings

(23:12) A life-changing tragedy

(23:59) A new path: From business to fulfillment

(25:14) The birth of Battle Bars

(26:13) Challenges and triumphs in the protein bar market

(27:43) Innovative flavors and partnerships

(35:30) Expanding the business

(37:46) Supporting veterans and future plans

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Connect with Alex Witt:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-witt-6a7a8b7a/ 
• Learn more about Battle Bars: https://battlebars.com/ 
• Learn more about 104010 Fitness: https://www.104010fitness.com/ 
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/battle-bars-alex-witt-1tt9

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, hosts Lloyd Knight and Scott W. Luton discuss workplace culture, one of the most overlooked elements of career success. From defining what culture really means to sharing hard truths about toxic environments, Lloyd draws on over 14 years of experience teaching culture to veterans and corporate teams. They talk about why many job seekers overlook culture, how leadership can affect your health, and what signs to look for when evaluating a company.

Lloyd also shares stories from his own transition from the Air Force to UPS, including how outdated policies had to evolve to attract and retain top talent. Whether you’re a veteran preparing to enter the civilian workforce or a leader trying to improve team performance, this episode offers real-world examples, personal lessons, and a powerful reminder that culture isn’t a perk, it’s a priority.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:15) Defining workplace culture

(02:59) Formal definition of workplace culture

(03:38) Implied vs. expressly defined culture

(04:07) Constructive dissatisfaction at UPS

(05:05) The impact of toxic work environments

(06:43) Advice for job seekers

(08:48) The role of recognition in employee performance

(09:42) Veteran retention in corporate america

(10:28) The impact of management on employee health

(13:14) Handling toxic work environments

(14:22) Why workplace culture matters

(16:48) Elements impacting workplace culture

(24:12) Characteristics of amazing workplace cultures

(29:26) The unique roster of guests

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Learn more about VETLANTA: https://vetlanta.org
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/why-workplace-culture-matters-more-paycheck-1tt8

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Lacy Gunnoe, director of wellbeing at Camp Southern Ground and a fellow Air Force veteran. Lacy shares his journey from growing up in rural West Virginia to becoming a pilot and instructor in the Air Force, flying everything from the T-37 tweet to KC-135 tankers. He opens up about the challenges and rewards of military life, deployments, and the leadership lessons that shaped his path.

Lacy then takes us behind the scenes at Camp Southern Ground, a unique nonprofit founded by musician Zac Brown with a vision of inclusion and healing. He explains how the camp serves veterans and children with innovative programs rooted in wellbeing, post-traumatic growth, and community. From the sustainable facilities and organic gardens to life-changing activities and personalized support, Lacy reveals how this special place is transforming lives and helping veterans find new purpose beyond the uniform.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:10) Lacy’s upbringing in rural West Virginia

(02:00) Finding his path through ROTC and his uncle’s mentorship

(03:15) Life as a KC-135 pilot and T-37 instructor

(06:00) Deployments, camaraderie, and the tanker community

(10:50) Leaving active duty and discovering the Guard

(13:10) The decision to separate and focus on family

(14:50) Volunteering and the road to Camp Southern Ground

(17:00) Zac Brown’s vision and how the camp began

(18:45) Warrior Week and post-traumatic growth

(20:15) Holistic veteran support: career, purpose, and wellbeing

(22:00) Family Camps and connecting through play

(25:00) The camp’s design, facilities, and intentional legacy

(27:00) Culinary excellence and the healing power of food

(29:00) Garden therapy and organic nutrition

(31:00) Rebuilding trust, identity, and purpose post-service

(34:30) Real-life impact and stories of transformation

(37:00) How to support Camp Southern Ground

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Connect with Lacy Gunnoe: www.linkedin.com/in/lacygunnoe
• Learn more about Camp Southern Ground: www.campsouthernground.org
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/camp-southern-ground-1tt7

In this episode of Tango Tango, Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight explore the importance of personal branding for job seekers, veterans transitioning into civilian careers, and professionals aiming to boost their visibility. Whether you’re new to the job market, or looking to stand out at a job fair, personal branding is a crucial tool to differentiate yourself from the competition.

They talk about how personal branding helps you stand out in a crowded job market and establishes credibility and trust with potential employers. From perfecting your elevator pitch to managing your LinkedIn profile, Lloyd provides practical tips on how to make a lasting impression.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(01:10) The importance of personal branding

(01:30) Transitioning from military to civilian careers

(03:39) Key elements of personal branding

(04:45) Standing out in job applications

(07:43) The role of online presence

(09:33) Defining your personal brand

(14:03) Three key tips for personal branding

(21:25) The power of storytelling

(23:57) Upcoming live podcasts and engagement

(28:51) The origins of Tango Tango

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Learn more about Vetlanta: https://vetlanta.org
• Learn more about Knight Work: https://knightwork.us/ 
• Check out Lloyd’s book Knight Work on Amazon (re-release coming soon): https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Work-Unfinished-Journey-VETLANTA/dp/1662874464
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/top-tips-personal-branding-1tt6

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Steve Prince, a U.S. Army veteran and founder of Warrior Set Free. Steve takes us through his deeply personal journey from his struggles with discipline in his early years to his transformative experiences in the military and the profound lessons he's learned along the way.

Steve reflects on his path to joining the Army, driven by a need for discipline, college funding, and a desire to belong to something meaningful. He shares the pain of growing up without a father, whose suicide when Steve was five left a lasting impact. This loss shaped his life and drove him to the military, where he would face trials and triumphs alike.

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Intro

(00:50) Steve Prince and his life’s journey

(08:24) Challenges and forgiveness

(10:32) Career setbacks and lessons learned

(17:12) Transition to civilian life and ministry

(24:45) Introduction to warrior freedom appointments

(25:05) Presenting the gospel

(26:49) Confession, repentance, and forgiveness

(29:08) The freedom appointment experience

(31:49) Warrior's battle and hero's return

(34:46) Personal stories and testimonials

(38:36) Reflection and future plans

Additional Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Tango Tango: https://supplychainnow.com/program/tango-tango 
• Learn more about our hosts: https://supplychainnow.com/about 
• Connect with Lloyd Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydknight
• Connect with Steve Prince:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-prince-4780575/ 
• Learn more about Supply Chain Now: https://supplychainnow.com
• Work with us! Download Supply Chain Now’s Media Kit: https://bit.ly/3XH6OVk

Tango Tango is proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now. For additional information, please visit our dedicated show page at: https://supplychainnow.com/from-soldier-healer-warriors-set-free-1tt5