Teatime With Jesse

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  • Bilingual Comedians, Comedy Clubs, and Community in China vs. America

    On this week's audio-only Teatime with Jesse, we have Rachel from Crazy Laugh Comedy and Shawn from Chinese Comedy at Silicon Valley.

    Rachel, Shawn, and I sip on some pretty decent Moganshan green tea and talk about the differing comedy landscapes in China vs. America. We talk about getting started in comedy, how bad ChatGPT is at writing jokes, and how not ALL comedians have to be depressed.

    0:30 Meet Rachel (Crazy Laugh Comedy) and Shawn (City Comedy)

    0:47 Moganshan Green tea is decent

    01:25 Seeing the growth of China’s comedy scene in the US

    01:41 How to get started in comedy in America

    3:27 Doing comedy online isn’t that fun

    4:32 Standup provides a voice for you

    5:10 You need a creative outlet

    6:17 Be yourself, everyone else is taken

    7:29 American vs. Chinese political infighting

    8:58 No serious problems are easy to solve

    9:19 Businessmen fail all the time

    11:40 Finding a sense of community in New York

    12:21 Finding community in Silicon Valley

    13:00 Tech advertisements are pretty niche

    14:08 Coming back to America after living in China for 10 years  

    16:00 Doing jokes as an American who was a foreigner in China

    16:25 No one is looking for a white guy who speaks Chinese

    18:00 Rachel quit her job

    24:10 Comedy is expansive

    26:00 Bilingual translators and bilingual comedy

    26:32 Translating with ChatGPT

    26:54 ChatGPT can’t tell jokes

    27:40 You still need human taste

    29:45 Putting together comedy shows in China

    30:41 Using online content to drive offline growth

    31:07 Using online exposure to attract attention to comedy clubs

    31:35 How do comedians come together at comedy clubs

    32:55 Comedians aren’t all depressed 

    33:08 You don’t have to suffer to be a comedian, but you might have to be anxious

    35:48 LGBTQIA+ comedy in China

    37:24 Being outside of the mainstream


    #foreignerinchina #bilingualcomedy #teatimewithjesse #jessesteahouse #chineselanguagelearning #mandarinlanguagelearning



    40 min
  • Is AI good or bad for artists? ft. Simon Zhu

    Another artist on the pooood! This is an exciting one with painter, designer, and creative technologist, Simon Zhu.

    In this Teatime with Jesse, we delve into different art styles from ancient Chinese landscape painting, Western oil painting, and even AI-generated digital images. Simon and I chat about how technology influences creativity, art, and the democratization of media. Oh, and we might have some mercy coming!


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    #aiart #artificialintelligence #chinesepainting #chineseteaculture #tibetandarktea #tibetantea #tibetanart #looseleaftea #gongfucha #gongfutea #kungfutea


    0:35 Meet Simon

    01:00 We’re designing a tea set and merchandise

    01:50 Jesse’s tea set is legit

    02:22 Lots of influencers, not enough tea people

    03:00 Learning from Tibetan art practice

    03:40: Tibetan black tea

    04:07 Tibetan tea is salty

    04:34 Tibetan tea smells creamy

    05:10 Yak butter tea

    05:30 Where do I get yak butter in Southern California

    06:00 Black tea, dark tea, etc

    07:00 Tibetan tea would be so good with milk

    07:44 Growing up with Buddhism and being drawn to the art form

    09:13 The history of trade between the US and China

    12:00 What is a thangka

    13:16 Thangkas are scrolls, rolled-up paintings

    15:50 Learning different styles of painting

    16:28 Localizing art

    17:40 Traditional art and modern digital art

    21:06 Understanding art and designing a product

    22:07 Western art vs. Chinese art

    22:42 Impressionism

    23:00 Expressing feelings in art

    25:00 Jesse got started during COVID

    28:30 Chinese painting styles

    29:08 Song dynasty landscape paintings

    30:34 There’s a reason for everything

    31:25 Designing landscapes from a technical standpoint

    35:00 Fine art vs. performance art vs. design

    36:50 As an artist you have to sell something

    37:31 AI and Artists

    38:18 There is always a human element in the art process

    39:30 Does AI technology enhance artistry

    40:17 Fear of AI is valid

    41:39 The importance of transparency when we’re using technology

    43:12 The Internet is always hungry

    44:00 Misinformation around AI

    45:23 What is art

    46:30 Traditional art will make a comeback

    46:44 The democratization of art

    47:44 Chalets in Yunnan

    48:13 Yunnan is like Switzerland

    49:10 Jesse’s tea tours

    49:30 Mushrooms from Yunnan

    52:00 Qing dynasty trends

    53:08 Hair volume

    53:33 Are tea trees bushy

    56:04 Scale and perspective in Chinese art

    57:03 Han Chinese roofs

    58:10 The illusion of passing through space and time

    59:00 We want the tea set out by Christmas

    59:32 Jesse is not a fashion designer

    1:00:28 What kind of merch should we have

    1:01:50 Should we make a tea journal

    1:06:00 Lightning round

    1:04:46 Is there a tea god

    1:07:08 Realism and subjective ideas in art

    1:07:48 Don’t be replaced by AI

    1:08:10 Gifting Simon a tea pet

    1:09:10 Join Jesse’s tea club to try new tea

    1 hr 10 min
  • Charcoal Roasting Oolong Tea on Dongding Mountain, Taiwan

    Hellooooo tea friends! I love when we can bring tea experts on the pod! This Teatime with Jesse was filmed live on Dong Ding Mountain when I was in Taiwan!


    I learned a lot while I was there! And I brought back Charcoal Roasted Oolong Tea’s made by Jayme’s family. :) This episode is so fun, watch as Jayme and I talk about the differences in Western vs. Taiwanese tea culture. Jayme also delves into the process of charcoal roasting tea, learning from a tea master, and selling tea to Michelin restaurants.


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    0:15 Meet Jayme, our tea provider

    0:34 Having a tea expert on the podcast

    1:20 Intercultural tea business

    1:43 Charcoal roasted Oolong tea

    1:56 Artisanal teamaking

    2:29 How tea is roasted at different levels

    3:43 Oolong in Taiwan is famous

    4:28 Shake out the fragrance

    5:04 There is no “best tea” only tea that fits you the best

    6:00 Born into a tea family

    6:39 Grandma was a city girl

    6:55 Marrying into a tea mountain family

    7:38 Tea is water

    8:06 The tea has a nutty, creamy smell

    9:54 Good tea has a sweet after taste

    10:28 Slow roasting tea vs. fast roasted tea

    11:39 Rebelling against the tea family

    12:15 Curiosity around herbal tea blends

    13:08 Don’t get fooled by scented oils in your tea

    13:43 Milky oolong is natural, from Jin Xuan

    14:45 Taiwanese oolong is pretty good actually

    15:30 How to describe tea to westerners

    16:00 Describing tea to producers vs. consumers

    17:16 Comparing tea to BMW cars

    18:17 Don’t disrespect your tea master

    20:28 Tea descriptions need to be accessible

    21:27 Taste notes are so personal, don’t give too much guidance at the tea table

    22:34 Ignore my taste notes if you want

    23:05 Steep times and temperatures

    24:40 The better tea you get, the harder it is to mess up

    27:29 Tea is art

    28:39 Mass produced grocery store tea vs. artisanal tea

    30:00 Seven teas from the same mountain

    30:38 Selling Taiwanese teas to Michelin restaurants

    31:57 Contextualizing the story behind the tea

    32:42 Tea farmers put a lot of effort behind the tea

    33:23 Tea farmers are artists

    33:52 Pairing tea with Michelin food

    36:23 Dark charcoal roasted tea

    38:00 Charcoal roasting gives brown sugar notes to tea

    38:37 Light vs. charcoal roasted tea

    39:47 It smells like coffee

    41:50 We don’t have to copy the local market

    47:18 The base of the tea

    47:55 Sometimes you can be stubborn

    50:30 Longan wood

    51:22 Getting into the tea roasting process

    52:00 Let the fire settle

    52:40 Speed of burning

    55:10 Different types of tea farmers

    56:25 Tea production has multiple departments

    1:02:45 Different temperatures for roasting

    1:06:16 Tea culture in Taiwan

    1:07:00 Describing the Taiwan Oolong sampler box

    1:09:00 Advice for people new to Oolong

    1 hr 13 min
  • You're not going to be internet famous overnight with Nick Touma

    Tea friends, welcome back to Teatime with Jesse! On this episode, we have Nick Touma ( @nicktguy ) that guy on Youtube that makes candy art.


    If you ever wondered what it takes to get to over 1 million subscribers on Youtube, well, for this guy it was lots of trial and error, plus over 70lbs of candy! We talk about what it takes to be a content creator, getting started, understanding your audience, and walking a mile in candy shoes. Content creating is really a whole journey. Anyway, of course we have some tea!


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    4:00 Big puff (Tea pet)

    6:07 NickTGuy’s Youtube Journey

    7:27 Growing up and changing interests

    08:26 Setting intentions with Youtube

    9:38 TikTok vs. Youtube

    10:58 TikTok as a slot machine

    11:53 The start of NickTGuy candy art

    13:23 The journey of the tea flavor

    11:26 The Starburst ball

    14:08 “That thing took over my life forsure”

    13:14 Steeps and tea journey

    15:29 Phone addiction

    21:48 Context and content, 23:34 Shift in content

    29:48 Can’t pour from empty cup

    35:06 Sister Ai’s red tea cake

    44:00 Starting out as a content creator

    44:30 The hidden cost of time investment

    48:32 The barrier of entry to create

    50:24 Creativity is sharing your perspective

    53:13 Be yourself

    55:00 The channel is the movie

    55:16 Series content

    55:35 Using charmander to defrost someone

    57:28 Art’s value is deemed by the limitations

    59:44 Bringing people into your world

    1:01:39 What’s art vs. commodity?

    1:05:43 If you wanted to you would

    1:07:29 The moment you sell too hard, you lose the audience

    1:08:21 Taking a break from content

    1:09:25 Output vs. quality

    1:13:03 Lightning round

    1:13:24 Passion and work

    1:13:42 Stop caring about other people’s opinions

    1:14:04 Dream project made of candy

    1:14:52 What’s it like meeting Mr. Beast

    1:17:43 Anything for the shot


    #contentcreation #youtubejourney #jessesteahouse #teatimewithjesse #looseleaftea #gongfucha #kungfutea #chinesetea #chineseteaculture

    1 hr 21 min
  • Quality tea is just good tea with West China Tea's So-Han Fan

    This week, we have a special audio-only podcast, sourced from a Livestream I had with West China Tea's So-Han Fan.

    So-Han owns a teahouse in Austin, Texas, so we're constantly talking about the tea and tea business. In this episode, we delve into the behind-the-scenes of running a tea company, working with tea farmers, knowing the language of the manufacturers, and drinking quality tea. The last of which, has more to do with understanding the experience of tea making and drinking tea than it has to do with specific parameters. And insect poop tea. We talk about that too.

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    2:48 Smoke and roasted teas

    7:06 Trying for the sake of technique

    18:21 Stereotypes against Chinese businesses

    20:48 Colorism and Perceptions of the Asian Community

    22:10 Suspicion and misinformation regarding manufacturing in China

    23:05 Assessing food quality of the loose-leaf tea at West China Teahouse

    25:21 Tea manufacturing vs. Tea curation

    25:35 Calling in the experts

    32:52 Comedy and tea

    36:08 The age of tea

    #chinesetea #gongfucha #gongfucha #looseleaftea #culturalexchange #foreignerinchina

    51 min
  • Exploring Cultural Differences: Content Creator Hasani Arnold's Move from America to China

    Hello tea friends! On this Teatime with Jesse, I hang out with Hasani Arnold at the Beijing Tea Market.


    Hasani Arnold is a content creator and Global Strategy Insight Manager. In this episode, we cover a lot! Hasani talks about growing up in New York and the cultural differences between the ethnic enclaves. We also discuss the challenges and opportunities of learning a foreign language and how policies have shaped public infrastructure in the China vs. US. Join us while we sip on some Ancient Tree White Tea and Qimen Red Tea.


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    00:00:29 Meet Hasani Arnold

    00:00:50 Duidui’s White tea

    00:01:33 Hasani’s Journey from New York, USA to Beijing, China

    00:02:42 Bilingual subtitling on social media

    00:03:13 The Chinese community in Flushing, Queens

    00:05:00 Disparate cultures in NYC

    00:06:50 Cultural differences at school vs. local neighborhoods in NYC

    00:07:29 Sensationalism in the media

    00:08:30 Chinese populations in American school

    00:09:29 Hasani’s first time abroad in Korea

    00:10:38 Feeling safe in Asia

    00:11:07 A foreigner experience in China

    00:11:38 Shanghai is Hasani’s favorite city

    00:13:44 Freedom of expression in New York

    00:15:00 New yorkers breaking out of their shell

    00:15:15 People in Los Angeles are fashionable

    00:15:54 Pushing the envelope in Shanghai

    00:16:25 Stop caring about what other people think

    00:16:50 Improv and “failing big”

    00:17:30 Changing lives through improv

    00:18:00 It’s hard to fight in the tea room

    00:19:00 Coffee and tea

    00:19:16 Hasani’s favorite tea: darjeeling white tea

    00:19:44 Chinese approach to coffee and tea

    00:21:33 Flattening tea

    00:22:09 Public infrastructure in China vs. America

    00:22:34 Accessibility in China

    00:24:23 Tea farmers are successful businesspeople

    00:27:25 Access to chargers and batteries

    00:28:38 Portable charging stations in China

    00:31:00 Perceptions of the self and community in China vs. America

    00:32:44 Communism and collectivism

    00:33:16 Wealth and individualism

    00:36:15 Racism in China vs. America

    00:36:40 Racism and public services in America

    00:37:12 The nature of democracy

    00:39:15 Policies and public parks

    00:41:45 Society and balance

    00:42:15 Extremism and balance

    00:42:33 The goals of China’s government

    00:43:00 The Cultural Revolution in China

    00:44:58 Bureaucracy and policy 

    00:46:06 China’s stability and yearly innovation

    00:46:46 Understanding someone else’s opinion

    00:47:29 Acrimony in American 

    00:48:28 Breaking the timeline

    00:49:48 Having all the information

    00:50:30 Getting into content creation

    00:51:07 Racial phenotypes

    00:53:00 Types of ignorance

    00:53:09 Hair in the Black community

    00:55:38 Race in China vs. America

    00:57:00 Qimen red tea

    00:54:14 The obligation of education

    01:02:05 Learning involves messing up

    01:02:34 Intent vs. impact

    01:03:03 The role of patience in understanding different perspectives

    01:04:00 There’s always something you don’t know

    01:05:00 Productive conversations

    01:06:18 Absurdist memes

    01:07:38 Donghua Jinlong industrial grade glycine and Tiktok

    01:10:30 Outsourcing marketing for advertising

    01:11:57 Make content!! Be yourself, just do it

    01:13:59 Media and the relationship between Asian American and Black American communities

    01:23:00 Dating abroad

    01:23:58 Addressing cultural stereotypes

    01:25:00 Connecting through language

    01:26:30 Lightning round

    01:27:20 Incorporating fashion in content creation

    01:28:43 Resources to learn Chinese



    #looseleaftea #gongfucha #contentreator #languageimmersian #shanghaiculture #beijingculture #beijingteamarket #jessesteahouse #teatimewithjesse

    1 hr 32 min
  • Bringing China Folk House from Yunnan China to West Virginia with John Flower

    John Flower took this farmhouse from Yunnan, China, and rebuilt it in West Virginia!


    Hi tea friends, we're in West Virginia for this Teatime with Jesse episode. I share some green tea with John Flower, Co-Founder of China Folk House and Director of the Sidwell Friends School Chinese Studies Program. We explore how a farmhouse saved from a dam in Yunnan became a center for community and cultural exchange in West Virginia. John's China Folk House Retreat project offers unique insights into traditional agriculture, architecture, and crafts from rural China.


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    #teatimewithjesse #jessesteahouse #chinafolkhouse #chineselanguagelearning #mandarinlanguage #greentea #agedtea #agedpuer #looseleaftea #experientiallearning #ruralchina

    1 hr 1 min
  • Aged Pu’er, ancient history, and knowing your audience with Dr. Felege Yirga

    We’re in Tennessee for a special episode of Teatime with Jesse with polyglot and historian Dr. Felege Yirga.

    Jesse and Felege reminisce about their iconic game nights while sipping Pu'er and Jasmine tea. Dive into the fascinating world of ancient cultures as we explore the Late Antique/Early Medieval periods of the Near East and Red Sea regions. Felege discusses how cultural shifts impact the recording of history, while Jesse draws some parallels between stand-up comedy and teaching history.

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    1 hr 14 min
  • Meditating on Chinese visual art: Green tea with photographer Michael Cherney [Teatime with Jesse]

    Hi tea friends, we missed you here on Teatime with Jesse. In this episode, I share Ancient Tree Green Tea with Michael Cherney, a self-taught photographer who's called China home for over 30 years. His works, inspired by China's rich art history and landscape tradition, are in collections worldwide including the Met's Asian Art Department. Cherney captures fleeting moments in places steeped in cultural memory.

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    1 hr 2 min
  • China's History of Tea (and Trade) with Laszlo Montgomery

    On this Tea Time with Jesse, Jesse is joined by Teacup Media founder, business consultant, and podcast host Laszlo Montgomery.

    Laszlo Montgomery spent 25 years growing US market shares for Chinese consumer product manufacturers. During that time, he worked abroad, learning about China's history and the value of intercultural connections. In this episode, Laszlo shares how he chooses research topics for the China History podcast and his motivations for starting Teacup Media.

    Check out the China History Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCim2V_PqtJ6_W2fDESGzJHA

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    0:00:27 Meet Laszlo

    0:02:50 Laszlo’s everyday tea

    0:03:32 Ancient tree tea

    0:05:18 Starting the Chinese history podcast

    0:07:48 How to prioritize topics on a history podcast

    0:09:20 The Chinese exclusion act 0:10:34

    Chinese immigration to the US

    0:20:29 Living in Hong Kong during the Handover

    0:27:38 The history of China-US trade relations

    0:29:00 Nixon and The Cultural Revolution

    0:41:18 Working with the London Science Museum to display palace artifacts from Beijing

    0:51:44 The importance of understanding history in the present

    0:53:30 Independent podcast research vs. museum curation

    1:10:00 Tea pets and the Zodiac


    #chinesehistory #chinahistorypodcast #jessesteahouse #teatimewithjesse #chinatrade #gongfutea #chinesetea #teahistory #foreignerinchina #mandarinlanguage

    1 hr 16 min

About Teatime With Jesse

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Jesse Appell is a Fulbright scholar, bilingual comedian and tea guy who has found that the best conversations happen over tea with interesting people.