Today, we have a special guest, Gojko Adzic, who introduces his new book "Lizard Optimization."

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Join us as Gojko walks us through the significant value testers can bring to organizations beyond merely reporting bugs and evaluating product readiness. We'll delve into his rich experiences with user behavior at scale and the formidable challenges he's faced while offering practical strategies to unlock remarkable product growth.

In this episode, we discuss Gojko's innovative four-step lizard optimization method and the hidden power of edge cases. Gojko emphasizes testers' fundamental role in product innovation, mainly through experimentation and user behavior analysis.

We'll also touch on the balance between addressing accessibility needs and identifying obstacles in user workflows to enhance usability for everyone.

Listen in as Joe and Gojko explore the insightful intersection of user expectations and software design, leveraging customer support data for product improvements and the transformative potential of monitoring production environments. Whether you're a software tester, developer, or product manager, this episode is packed with actionable insights and thought-provoking perspectives that promise to elevate your approach to software development and user engagement. Don't miss out!