Pesahim 73

A. For non-eaters – case included for style

B. Why liable if destructive?

C. Rav -> Uprooting is not required

Pesah w/ no owners is burnt –> uprooting is required

Reinterpret Rav

R. Hiya -> uprooting is not required

Reinterpret Mishnah, after midday

Problem for Rav

Not R. Eliezer

Yosef ben Honai

Pesahim 72

[A] Pesah for a peace-offering – liable

[B] Peace-offering for a Pesah – if unfit animal - liable

If fit animal R. Eliezer – liable; R. Yehoshua - exempt

[A] intentional uprooting

[B] unwitting

[C] R. Eliezer’s kal vahomer if A is liable then for sure B

R. Eliezer both [A] & [B] are intentional

[D] R. Yehoshua’s response is only acc. to R. Eliezer

[E] Q and A from communal offerings that are limited

Challenge from babies

Communal offerings made first

[F] R. Meir – once Shabbat may be violated - exempt

If preoccupied – exempt

If easily confused - exempt

R. Yohanan’s view

Pesahim 69 – The Dialogue between R. Eliezer and R. Akiva

A. Kal va-Homer from Yom Tov

B. Comparing Activities Before and After Slaughter

C. R. Eliezer’s view re sprinkling on Shabbat?

Ula – prohibited for Terumah, permitted for Pesah

Rabbah – prohibited in all cases

Because obligation does not apply to him

Comparison to Berit Milah on Shabbat

Challenge from uncircumcised on Pesah

Rabbah – individual = communal

Rava – impure can send Pesah w/ others

Pesahim 67

Shechinah –  Temple –   only pure people

Levi –  Temple mount –  corpse impurity permitted

Yisrael –  Jerusalem –   Zav permitted

Outside the camp/city -   Mesora

ויקרא יג, מו

כָּל־יְמֵ֞י אֲשֶׁ֨ר הַנֶּ֥גַע בּ֛וֹ יִטְמָ֖א טָמֵ֣א ה֑וּא בָּדָ֣ד יֵשֵׁ֔ב מִח֥וּץ לַֽמַּחֲנֶ֖ה מוֹשָׁבֽוֹ:

במדבר ה, ב-ד

(ב) צַ֚ו אֶת־בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל וִֽישַׁלְּחוּ֙ מִן־הַֽמַּחֲנֶ֔ה כָּל־צָר֖וּעַ  וְכָל־זָ֑ב  וְכֹ֖ל טָמֵ֥א לָנָֽפֶשׁ:

(ג) מִזָּכָ֤ר עַד־נְקֵבָה֙ תְּשַׁלֵּ֔חוּ אֶל־מִח֥וּץ לַֽמַּחֲנֶ֖ה תְּשַׁלְּח֑וּם וְלֹ֤א יְטַמְּאוּ֙ אֶת־מַ֣חֲנֵיהֶ֔ם אֲשֶׁ֥ר אֲנִ֖י שֹׁכֵ֥ן בְּתוֹכָֽם:

Does Mesora receive lashes?

Rav Hisda – no, R. Shimon – “badad” is extra

Baraita – yes, R. Yehuda

R. Shimon – “any” corpse impurity includes sheretz

“any zav” includes Keri

R. Yehuda disagrees b/c uses the Bemibar verse for impurity on Pesah

Re: “any zav” includes Keri, both out of Temple Mount

Supports R. Yohanan

Challenge from Mishnah

Mention of uncircumcised group first invalidates – why?

1. Only last instant matters & first expression applies

2. Whole process matters & only expressed first

3. He had only first group in mind for windpipe

Mishnah

Owning Hames during slaughter

Where is the Hames?

Resh Lakish – in the courtyard

R. Yohanan – anywhere

“על” means near or anywhere

Uncertain warning

Who may not own Hames during Pesah slaughter?