Pesahim 83

A. Why Burn Bones?

1) Holders for notar marrow – R. Yishak

Attempted proof from Mishnah

2) Bones contain marrow – may not be broken even when disqualified – R. Yaakov

Challenge to A from Baraita

Ranbi – found them broken

Rav Zevid – found them in piles

B. Burning sinews:

Rav – Neck sinews are not edible

Challenge from Mishnah – refers to edible (with difficulty) neck sinews

1) Rav Hisda – Mishnah refers to Gid Hanasheh

2) Rav Ashi – Mishnah refers to fat around Gid Hanasheh

3) Ravina – outer nerve

C. Why can’t we burn notar on Yom Tov?

1) “until morning” twice

2) May only burn Shabbat offering on Shabbat

3) Like a postponed circumcision

4) Resting on Yom Tov is also a positive commandment

Pesahim 82

A. Where to burn impure Pesah?

B. With Whose Wood?

C. Source for burning Impure

Taken outside

D. Source that piggul must be left overnight before burning

E. If owners become disqualified do you need to leave overnight?

Pesahim 81 – Unknown Impurity

Mishnah - unknown impurity

1) Does unknow impurity law apply to a kohen for Pesah?

Baraita – unknown impurity only applies to a corpse

A. But not owner impure from a sheretz?

Impure from Sheretz may offer Pesah.

Therefore applies to Kohen

B. But not owner impure from a zav?

R. Yose – zav’s Pesah is valid b/c unknown

impurity

Zav was pure deoraita when he did Pesah

Therefore applies to Kohen

A. But not owner impure from a sheretz

Impure from Sheretz may NOT offer Pesah

2) Does unknow impurity law apply to a kohen for tamid?

Rabbah – Yes, from kal vahomer

Rava – Yes, gezerah shava from Pesah

3) Source for unknown impurity?

R. Eleazar – nazir

R. Yohanan – Pesah from “to you”

Resh Lakish – Pesah from “road”

Challenge from Baraita.

Law of Oral Tradition

4) Became known before or after Sprinkling?

Pesahim 80

A. Exactly half pure and half impure

Rav – make someone impure

Ula – send someone far away

B. Mostly Zavin, minority corpse-impure

C. Mostly corpse-impure, minority Zavin

D. 1/3 Zav, 1/3 pure, 1/3 corpse-impure

Mishnah - unknown impurity

Challenge from Baraita

Rava

R. Sheila

What if kohen found out about unknown impurity?

Pesahim 79

Rav Gidel in the name of Rav – can follow R. Yehoshua

Mishnah follows R. Yehoshua re Heleb

Mishnah –

Utensils Tameh ok to offer Pesah

Rav Hisda – only when knife has corpse-impurity

causing people to be tameh

Rava – even rodent impurity

Half and half

a) Rav – both perform first pesah separately

b) Rav Kahana 1 – impure perform Pesah Sheni

c) Rav Kahana 2 – impure never perform Pesah

Challenge to Rav

Challenge to Rav Kahana 2

Challenge to Rav kahana 1

Proofs for each opinion

How the other opinions explain each proof

Pesahim 78

Authorship of Mishnah – R. Yose?

Explaining Baraita of R. Yose

Mishnah – when meat is tameh

Statement of Rav Gidel in the name of Rav

Pesahim 77 – Communal Sacrifices that Are Eaten

Mishnah – 5 offerings brought in tumah but not eaten

Exclude Hagigah of 15 Nisan

Include all holidays musafin

Source – “moed”

Assumptions

A. Need the frontlet for atonement of tumah

B. Frontlet doesn’t atone for eaten parts

C. R. Yehoshua – blood & meat are mutually dependent

Parts eaten on the altar are sufficient

What about menahot?

R. Yehoshua disputes B

Mishnah is bediabad, C. is lechatehilah

Mishnah is public, C. is private

Pesahim 76

Hot & Cold

Rav – Upper wins

Shmuel – Lower wins

Challenge to Shmuel from Mishnah 1

Challenge to Shmuel from Mishnah 2

Challenge to Shmuel from Mishnah 3

Proof for Shmuel 1

Proof for Shmuel 2

Salted food is like hot

Only if inedible salty

Is smell substance?

Rav – Yes

Levi - No

Challenge to Levi and to Rav from Pesah

Matches Tannaitic dispute?

Pesahim 75

A. Griddle vs grill

B. Is material heated from fire considered fire itself?

Pesah case no but orlah yes

Or both no

b/c pesah is a precedent

b/c orlah uses prohibited wood, but generally yes

C. Rabbi – directly on coals is roasting

1. Contradiction from Sara`at

a) Wood coals are fire, metal coals are not fire

Contradiction from capital punishment

Contradiction from bull sin-offerings

b) Ravina – include coals in first מכוה

1. Contradiction from Yom Kippur

Pesahim 74 – How to Roast a Pesah

A. Type of stick

B. Where to put the entrails?

C. Blood laws – meat stuffing ok b/c absorbs like it emits

Attempted proof from Mishnah

Attempted proof from heart

Attempted support form bird wrap

Challenge from bird wrap

D. Removing blood of raw meat, testicles, large veins

E. Soaking meat in vinegar