When Taylor Swift released THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey were hosting a LIVE listening party to react to the album all together. Their surprise to seeing one of their very own names in a title was crazy, but then to actually hear the lyrics... it quickly became a forever-iconic moment in 13 podcast history!! Relive it all in this special episode!

PLUS, a breakdown of the lyrics and the 15-year long history that lead to Taylor writing this song in the first place. And is the song a jab, or is it actually a red-herring? And how does this song apply to more songs across Taylor's discography? 

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