In this episode, Grant interviews Mike Burnette, pastor of LifePoint Church in Clarksville, Tennessee, one of the fastest growing churches in the nation. They discuss the many roles senior pastors navigate, but aren't necessarily trained to do in seminary–from hiring and firing staff as a nonprofit president, to doing multi-million dollar budgets and meeting with mortgage lenders, to counseling couples on the verge of divorce. Listen in as Grant and Mike paint the practical and complex reality senior pastors manage while shepherding people humbly and well.

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