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Simone Douglas wears many hats but this time we are going to interview her as proprieter of the Duke Of Brunswick Hotel and as a representative of the Hospo Owners Collective, during this phase of trying to deliver hospitality in a time of Covid. Ultimately we discover, we need to honour the science, we need to manager our communal health, we need to nurture our economy, and perhaps the missing link has been a strong, statesperson in political leadership? That said, we also note that this is a one in 100 year event.

We also drink a stunning Shiraz by Cimicky Wines from the Barossa.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Emma Knights sings There's No Beauty.

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Running Sheet: Hospitality in a time of Covid

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:03:35 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is 2017 Cimicky Wines Shiraz from the Barossa.

00:13:01 Simone Douglas

Simone Douglas is no stranger to mixing it with influential members of parliament, government, and industry. Usually, it's all very harmonious. But over much of 2021, we've seen a different side of Simone, as she has stepped up (as co-owner of the Duke Of Brunswick Hotel and as a respresentative of the Hospo Owners Collective), to help her sector advocate for what she calls more responsible and just Covid restrictions.

Before we get into the guts of this discussion today, what has it been like, having to be on the front foot, trying to advocate for change against people and institutions you are normally in harmony with?

I should also put in early that this podcast rests on a couple of very important principles. Firstly, we accept the world's scientific and medical consensus about this pandemic, about the measures that have been explored to constrain it (thanks to epidemiologists who know a lot more about the complexities of these things than your Facebook Armchair Experts or conservative commentators), and secondly, we feel deeply for SA Health and our politicians who are having to navigate through a once-in-100-years event but are doing so in an age of social media in which looney conspiracy theorists can make as much if not more noise than proper experts.

That said, we also hold to the principle that humans are fallible and we must always have a curiosity and and open mind so as to keep reviewing evidence in light of experience and data AND we must appreciate that, as Oscar Wilde said, the truth is rarely pure and never simple.

Simone, can you chart us through the journey of running a pub during Covid, noting that you've always had a strong stance of supporting community groups and performers.

What's it been like for staff

What's it been like with suppliers

How have the different phases of government regulations affected you

What would you like to see

What is holding the government back

Researchers from Monash University and the University of Edinburgh, just published the results of a large study. I'll quote from the Guardian story -

“This systematic review and meta analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence of Covid-19,” the researchers wrote in the BMJ. They said the results highlight the need to continue mask wearing, social distancing and handwashing alongside vaccine programmes.

Can you see a way for the hospitality sector to accommodate masks and distancing while remaining viable?

What is your message to us?

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Eudunda is the birthplace of one of South Australia's most famous authors, the late Colin Thiele, and this week we celebrate the Eudunda 150 celebrations with two local authors; historian, Samuel Doering, and former resident from the 1950s, Chris Stegmeyer.

On the way to record this episode, we stopped in at St Hallett Wines in the Barossa Valley to taste the SA Drink Of The Week, which happens to be the 2017 St Hallett Old Block Shiraz.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Eudundan, Michaela Jenke, kicks up a storm with her song, Stop & Stare.

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Running Sheet: Eudunda 150 not out

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:03:52 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is the 2017 St Hallett Old Block Shiraz.

The tasting was held with National Cellar Door Manager for Accolade Wines, Andrew McDowell, at St Hallett Wines in the Barossa Valley, which is the site for the company's planned, multi-million-dollar Multi-Brand Wine Experience project, set to launch late in 2022. The brands to be featured will be Grant Burge, St Hallett and Rolf Binder.

South Australia has long been the jewel in Australia's wine crown, but the D'Arenburg Cube threw a cat among the pigeons a few years ago, revving up interest in SA and McLaren Vale as a wine lovers destination. Andrew, you've been talking to Tourism SA while planning this new Wine Experience Destination in the Barossa. Is that D-word, DESTINATION, what it's all about?

Before we get into the details, does the need to pour money into a major project like this signal that the Cellar Door Experience is lacking?

You're the National Cellar Door Manager for Accolade Wines - by the way, one of your board members, Sir James Hardy has previously been a guest on The Adelaide Show (ep 298 - Sailing with Sir James Hardy) - what makes a cellar door worth visiting?

Now, back to your new project. It's going to be quite big, spanning more than 600 square metres, and will have spaces carved out to create vaults for eating and drinking and different experiences. We'll put some images in the show notes. Andrew, if you could give us a virtual, audio tour of the space, what will we experience inside and, most importantly, can you explain what it means when the media release says the design's been modelled on contemporary Australian vernacular?

I mentioned The Cube earlier, which is dashing and garish from the outside, but your project could easily be mistaken as just another hall from the outside - the inside is amazing - but the outside seems very muted. Has that been deliberate?

For the gastronomic experience you'd like people to have at your new venue, there's been mention made that you want others to collaborate with you. What does that mean?

This is likely to attract people wanting to work in tourism and hospitality. Can we get your 2-3 takeaway points for being good at customer service in a tourism entity? What would make you say, wow, this person is a star and I want to hire them?

Finally, tell me honestly, you are at cellar door and you look up and you see two groups approaching. The first group is half a dozen 20-somethings, guys and gals, being loud with plenty of swagger, and then you look up and see a small group of older, very well-to-do people walking towards the cellar door with their heads tilted back as they seem to look down their noses at everything around them. What goes through your mind?

00:22:54 Samuel Doering and Chris Stegmeyer

The town of Eudunda, just over 100km northeast of Adelaide, is turning 150 this year. Samuel Doering, chair of the Eudunda 150 sub-committee, invited The Adelaide Show to shine a light on what's happening and you wouldn't read about it but we've come up with two books to explore. The first is The Diary of Emilie Appelt: Eudundan. German. Lutheran. Woman. 1904-1914, which has been edited by Samuel himself. And the other book is Christiaan Stegmeyer - My Story by our other guest, Chris Stegmeyer, who was a resident in town in the 1950s.

The Diary of Emilie Appelt

While in Eudunda, Steve was also asked to be a judge for the Eudunda Art Prize, and The Adelaide Show Podcast ended up sponsoring a Commendation Prize because there were too many good works! Fellow judges included Peter Goers from ABC Adelaide, and cartoonist, Jed Dunstan, from the Stock Journal.

Let's start by getting a sense of your histories with Eudunda. Chris, if we go with age before beauty, let's start with you and your links with Eudunda?

Samuel, how long have you lived here?

You are a historian, among other things. Has growing up in Eudunda had much to do with that life path?

How did Emilie Appelt come into your life?

Can you give us a taste of Emilie's experience of Eudunda; arriving when there were only about half a dozen houses?

How is this town similar to and different from other SA country towns?

Who are some of the legends?

And do you know how Peep Hill got it's name? It sounds rather risque.

Why should we visit?

01:04:09 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, we have Eudundan country music legend, Michaela Jenke, with her new song, Stop & Stare.

It's been four years between drinks, when it comes to original songs from Jenke. She says writing doesn't come that easily to her but this song was off and running after she'd penned the first lines:
‘Been livin’ in a circus.
Been livin’ on dreams,
and I’m the master of the ring’.
Michaela has caught the eyes and ears of the country music scene in Australia but still graciously took time to send us her song to play, while she was on her honeymoon. There's got to be a country song in that, somewhere!
This track is about self-empowerment and it has plenty of kick, perhaps just like the original Eudundans.

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They say a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down but maybe they should say it brings us closer to diabetes.

Our special guest in this episode is former Australian Of The Year and eye specialist, Dr James Muecke, who is on the warpath against sugar because he's seen what it's done to his patients, including instantaneous blindness.

In the SA Drink Of The Week, we have a shot or two of Baristador B70 espresso coffee.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Susan Lily returns with her whiskey the way James Muecke would approve!

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Running Sheet: Sugar vs Dr James Muecke00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:05:06 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is the Baristador B70 dark roast espresso.

00:11:43 Dr James Muecke

Sugar is everywhere and in everything, from processed foods to the fruit of the vine. It comes in every type of food we can imagine and in our brains, sugar stimulates the “feel-good” chemical dopamine, which scientists think has evolutionary roots (find a source of sugar in hunter-gatherer days and you have a source of energy that will aid survival. However, the 2020 Australian of the Year, ophthalmologist James Muecke, says in our society, sugar is a shortcut to diabetes and the next stop after that is blindness.

Sight For All

James, I feel bad that we're not going to have time to delve into your wonderful legacy of work as an opthamologist all around the world, doing what you could to save and restore sight. So could we start with one of your most profound memories of your work in that field, whether that was in Australia or overseas?

Hearing stories like that makes my blood boil because you represent a body of people who dedicated years to learning within the discipline of medical science but most of the noise we get on social media these days is all about how that science is a fraud. Have you developed any coping mechanisms for when you encounter the torrent of half-baked intuitions, psuedo science, and snake oil being touted by these shrill alarmists?

I saw you speak recently at a conference of doctors and you stunned us with your opening story of a patient of yours who woke up one day, blind. Can you share that story now because that puts the seriousness of our sugar discussion into perspective.

How do we measure the impact sugar consumption is having on our bodies. Are there particular signs that we doing it wrong?

Let's talk about the 5 As of sugar.

We have some questions about interacting with sugar from listeners but as I look at them, they are largely about sugar itself, whereas you had some good coverage in the media recently about turning the focus around to eat like it's the 1970s. I want to get to the "sugar wrestle" but let's start on the positive step about how we should be approaching food.

I want to turn to our 11yo voiceover artist, Caitlin, who has contributed the following questions, completely unprompted.
How much sugar a day is good for a human? In other words, should we be having no sugar or a bit of sugar a day?
Is the sugar in fruits and sweets the same and if it is, why do fruits have sugar?
And how much sugar does it take to gain weight?

Two other listeners have asked similar questions:
Monique Miller would like to know your opinion on artificial sweeteners and the “sugar free” craze too. Should we cut back on sweet altogether? Are they an ok alternative?
And Chris Glenn from Japan asks, what do you suggest as Sugar alternatives because we've been using one made from beets?

Another listener, Rick Carter, asks, what do you think about SA Health funded Sausage sizzles ... and The Premier promoting Krispy Kremes.

As our household moves towards eating whole foods and reducing sugar, I commented recently to my wife that our days start strongly (intermittent fasting, whole meats and veg and dairy and nuts for lunch/dinner), but then the ship of virtue crashes into the reef of carbs around 9pm when crisps or ice cream or chocolate or all three start their siren calls. Would you think that isolating our weaknesses and strengthening them up, is a fast and reliable way for shoring up the ship, as it were?

Should sugar be a proclaimed substance like tobacco or alcohol and only be sold through specific stores AND not to minors?

Do we build "slack" into our systems if we're doing most things right, so much so that our bodies can cope more readily with some lopsided eating either as "treats" or during times of unexpected bursts of stress or abnormal situations?

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Not many South Australians have visited Andamooka, way up in the outback.

But, as it turns out, people who have grown up in the town have also missed a lot of their history, if the first female opal miner, Minnie Berrington, is anything to go by.

Lara Lukich joins us to dig into Andamooka's history.

In the SA Drink Of The Week, we have a quick sip of 2016 DiGiorgio Sparkling Merlot, from Coonawarra.

And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Dino Jag returns with a Sam Cooke cover. Wow!

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Running Sheet: A Minnie History Of Andamooka00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:03:00 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is the 2016 DiGorgio Sparkling Merlot, Coonawarra.

00:04:16 Lara Lukich

Andamooka has a reputation as a town in South Australia's north that is home to opal and "characters". While big companies tried their hands at mining opal in the area, the nature of the opal fields is such that they're best suited to independent miners, trying their luck. In the mix of this history was a woman, Minnie Berrington, who left clerical work in England in 1926 to become the postmistress and first female opal miner in the town. Lara Lukich (with Katalin Wilby) has a project to capture the life and work of Minnie B, through the company, Cinematica Films, and ahead of this weekend's Andamooka Opal Festival, she's joining us to shine some light on this jewel in South Australia's crown.

Let's get the lay of the land sorted first. How far are you from Adelaide and surrounding landmarks?

What do you see when you first arrive?

What would Minnie Berrington have seen and experienced?

What captured your imaginations about Minnie? (The Sand That Ate The Sea)

How do the people of Andamooka govern themselves? Is there something we can learn?

Is mining still central to life in the town?

And what about art? I see there is an Andamooka Tiger on display as part of this weekend's Andamooka Opal Festival. Is this a sign of a healthy artistic element in town?

Us westerners value opals for their monetary worth. Is that just because they're pretty? Or is there something intrinsincly valuable about them, for example, do you have any idea how they have been thought about by the traditional owners of the land?

Tell us about the weekend's event AND the raffle we can all join.

01:18:52 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, Dino Jag returns with a soulful version of the Sam Cooke classic, A Change Is Gonna Come.

BREAKING NEWS! Excited to announce Dino Jag's nomination for the 2021 PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARDS in the category of "SOUL/FUNK/R&B ARTIST" at this year's Music SA South Australian Music Awards Dino would be truly honoured if you would support him with a vote VOTE HERE https://themusic.com.au/page/sam-awards-2021With Love & GratitudeDino :~)

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We like to cook up a delicious serving of thought and insight and this week, you get a triple helping!

Oh, and the reference to the title of the show this week will become obvious but if you can't wait, one guest talks about baking cakes and another guest talks about CJ Dennis who wrote a fun poem for kids called, The Baker.

Now, to our aural menu this week:

Firstly, in the SA Drink Of The Week, we taste Varci tonics. Some delicious aromatic drinks that go well with gin and/or soda.

Secondly, Caroline Rowe introduces us to her philosophy and tips for cooking for one and for finding our kitchen mojo.

Thirdly, in the Musical Pilgrimage, Lisa Harper Campbell and Steven Oppes take us into the poetry zone, as they join us to talk about CJ Dennis ahead of their premier of the play, Of Auburn, at the Auburn French Festival this weekend.

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Running Sheet: I wouldn’t be a baker if I couldn’t eat the cakes00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:03:09 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is the range of tonics aka boutique handcrafted beverages by Varci.

00:14:13 Caroline Rowe

Caroline Rowe is an author, researcher, presenter, and cook, who champions the notion of cooking just 4 me. This is because, as she rightly points out, nearly 25% of Australian households are single person households and yet most recipes cater for a minimum of two people but mostly 4+. She joins us to continue spreading her message about finding out your natural cooking preferances so you can cook for yourself with confidence and ease.

Caroline's book: The Power Of Baking With Mindful Intent

Caroline's TV Show: Cooking Just4Me: My taste, no waste

Caroline's recipes: Recipes online

Caroline's workshops: Workshops for discovering your cooking personality

01:00:37 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, we go a little different as we prepare for a play, Of Auburn, which premieres this weekend at the Auburn Frenchfest, September 11 and 12, 2021. We speak with the director, Lisa Harper Campbell, and writer, Steven Oppes about this play which mines the life and poetry of CJ Dennis, who was born in Auburn, and interweaves that with the life of a lesser-known local, Madge Yeatman (volunteer nurse in the Great War).

We also hear a short excerpt of audio from the play, featuring some original music by the band, Minnie Little, some words written by CJ Dennis, and some aural landscape from the production.

Oh, and here's the full poem, The Baker, by CJ Dennis, to wrap things up:

I’d like to be a baker, and come when morning breaks,
Calling out, “Beeay-ko!” (that’s the sound he makes) —
Riding in a rattle-cart that jogs and jolts and shakes,
Selling all the sweetest things a baker ever bakes,
Currant-buns and brandy-snaps, pastry all in flakes;
But I wouldn’t be a baker if . . . .
I couldn’t eat the cakes.

Would you?

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Do you know what POTS is? If not, consider yourself lucky.

POTS is a syndrome that affects women of child-bearing age but can be experienced by both men and women of any age.

We'll be chatting with Claire Seeley, founder and director of the Australian POTS Foundation to learn more about the syndrome, its diagnosis, and its treatment.

The SA Drink Of The Week is St Hallett's Blackwells Shiraz.

And in the musical pilgrimage we have a track from Ben and Janna Romeo.

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Running Sheet: What is POTS?00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:03:52 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is 2018 St Hallett's Blackwells Shiraz.

00:08:46 Claire Seeley

It was only the last few days that I discovered the existence of a syndrome known as POTS. And the irony is, there could be people among us who are suffering from it without knowing it exists, either. This is the dilemma created by an syndrome that impacts the automatic nervous system in a range of ways, making it difficult to diagnose. What's more, we now are seeing people with post acute Covid being very suseptiable to POTS. Our guest tonight, Claire Seeley, discovered she had POTS, shortly after a viral infection and has not only been living with it ever since, but she's been working with fellow sufferers in her role as a Clinical Nurse Consultant, under the supervision of Associate Professor Dennis Lau (Cardiologist/Electrophysiologist) at Adelaide University. Welcome to The Adelaide Show.

Australian POTS Foundation

We're going to talk about what POTS is, your research into it, your work in with patients, and the Australian POTS Foundation, but first, if someone I know was suffering from a serious onset of POTS,  what sort of signs would I notice?

What did you experience?

Let's get into the detail. What do we know about POTS (and how do you pronounce all the words)

You mentioned in some of your notes that, historically, POTS has been much maligned by the medical profession. Any idea why? It is related to how complex it must be to diagnose?

Who is most at risk?

What outcomes should people expect to experience after being diagnosed with POTS? In other words, can it be treated successfully?

Can you tell us more about your work at Adelaide University. I think you said you are in one of the primary centres for treatment of Autonomic Cardiac Disorders in Australia.

The condition is highly associated with another poorly recognized condition could hypermobile Ehlers Danlos Syndrome which affects the collagen in the connective tissue. Why?

Listener, Lisa, has a question: She says her mum has Bradi Tachi Cardia, a heart condition. Unsure if related to POTS. Apparently it leads to her heart rate changing from fast to slow and vice versa. She said it would be good to know its common name.

There has been a surge in presentations and diagnosis of POTS in people post acute Covid-19.  To the point that there is now a drive for increased funding to understand the impact and cause of this condition. What is your research focussing on?

Do you need volunteers?

You have started a Foundation, tell us more about it.

Finally, I saw you recently at the birthday celebration for Sir Frank Seeley, your father-in-law. We just dressed up and went and feasted and chatted and headed home. Did POTS impact your approach to being at that night?

01:10:30 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, we hear from Claire Seeley's son-in-law and daughter, Ben and Janna Romeo, with a song called, Yellow Brick Road.

You can learn more about Janna at her Facebook page: Janna Romeo

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What's involved in coaching kids' sport? What effort is needed and what is the payoff?

In this episode, we chat with two parents who have risen to the challenge to make sure kids' sport happens in their school for their kids. We talk with comedian, Marc Ryan, and consultant, Nardia Symonds.

The SA Drink Of The Week is from Big Shed Brewing Concern

And in the musical pilgrimage we have a track from Emma Knights.

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Running Sheet: John Schumann on protest songs in times like these00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:02:24 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is Golden Stout Time by Big Shed Brewing Concern, and Steve tastes it with the Shed's Craig Basford.

00:12:04 Marc Ryan

Our first parent coach is Marc Ryan, who coaches basketball.

Marc is a comedian by night (and day) and if you'd like to book him, visit Marc Ryan - The Beautiful Bogan.

00:43:07 AJ and Caitlin

AJ and Caitlin are this podcast's voiceover angels who also happen to be Steve's daughters. Given that their mum, Nardia, is the second interviewee, we decided to ask them about what it's like being coached by their mum.

00:46:03 Nardia Symonds

Our second parent coach is Nardia Symonds, who coaches netball.

00:59:42 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, we have a chat with pianist, composer, performer, and producer, Emma Knights, about a survey to have more Australian music used in society. Then we hear her song, The Years Are Amazing.

You can learn more about Emma here: Emma Knights

You can fill in the petition here (live at the time of recording): Petition for big business to play and pay for Australian music

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John Schumann of Redgum fame joins us to reflect on the role of protest songs, especially in times like these, given that protest songs are often rooted in a particular time and place.

The SA Drink Of The Week is from Andrew Pike in the Clare Valley

And in the musical pilgrimage we have a track from John Schumann and the Vagabond Crew.

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Running Sheet: John Schumann on protest songs in times like these00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:04:20 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is 2015 Pikes The Merle Riesling, tasting with Andrew Pike.

00:11:20 John Schumann

In 2017, John Schumann teamed up with Shane Howard to co-write a modern protest song, Times Like These. Apart from the sense of frustration in the lyrics about how previously hard won gains are disappearing by degrees, there's a haunting line in it that has spooked me, given that I'm now in my second decade as a marketer who teaches businesses how to use social media:

From Dondale to Manus Island detention
People are drowning in a sea of inattention

This society is so fraught with and saturated by things of distraction, I wonder if protest songs are ever going to have potency ever again. So, I've asked John Schumann to reflect on this with me.

John, I want to trawl back through some of your protest songs produced with Redgum, and get your reflections on other protest songs of note, but let's start with an experience I had this morning, when I went to YouTube to relisten to TImes Like These. They say that protest songs thrive within a social and temporal context (time and place), that's what gives them meaning and power, so how's this. Your song was not able to play until I'd been subjected to a cheery ad for Target, coaxing me to buy some glittering toys, and then a health insurance ad wooing me to switch to them with the offer of waiving waiting times for claiming extras. I think I got my daily allowance of irony.

Could Bob Dylan's Blowing In The Wind get cut through in Times Like These?

And when are Times Like These NOT times like these. For example, we hear of people protesting the invention of the printing press, saying books will wear out our brains, we hear of ancient Roman  writers lamenting "today's youth", and then we hear songs from back in the 70s like Winter In America by Gil Scott-Heron with lyrics like:

Seem like winter in America
And ain't nobody fighting,
Because nobody knows what to save

Are all times as good or as bad as all other times, which begs the question, do we need protest songs at all - or do they give us something to occupy ourselves with, like throwing a bone to a dog?

You and I both saw a show at the Adelaide Cabaret Festival recently, The Art Of Protest, starring Vince Jones. My feeling at the time as a Vince Jones fan, was that there was a dissonance between Jone's smooth and polished voice and exquisite jazz accompaniment, and the heart-rending nature of some of the protest songs he played. Are there some key ingredients for a protest song to work, eg, the style of voice and music, as much as the content?

There was nuance in the name of Jones' show - the Art Of Protest. Art suggests that artists CHOOSE to do a protest song. Am I just naive to think that "real" protests songs are songs that emerge because there is NO OTHER CHOICE, vs making a decision to do something from the protest genre just like a pop genre?

Should there be a price paid by singing or writing protest songs?

Can you take us through the chemistry and the road map that led you and Redgum to write and produce some pretty bitter and frustrated songs?

What did you ever hope to achieve with any of your songs that might be classed protest songs, such as I Was Only 19? And do you start with an agenda, or do you just have something to say and let the cards fall where they may?

In a recent episode of Blind Insights with David Olney, they quoted a former PM of Australia saying: We will tolerate dissent, as long as it is ineffective. Does that wind you, to hear that? Does that make the protest enterprise futile?

Most important protest songs?

Advice to any young Redgums today?

01:03:56 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, we have a fitting song from John Schumann and the Vagabond Crew, featuring Shane Howard, called Times Like These.

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Alex Frayne first came to public attention with his release of a stunning coffee table, photography book, Adelaide Noir. He's back with a new book of South Australian landscapes and will take us behind the scenes of a professional photographer.

The SA Drink Of The Week is Ginache.

And in the musical pilgrimage we have a track from the Magic Tortoise band.

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Running Sheet: Alex Frayne on framing Adelaide and South Australia00:00:00 Intro

Introduction to the show.

00:03:18 SA Drink Of The Week

The SA Drink Of The Week is 2021 Ginache from Never Never Distilling Co.

00:25:53 Alex Frayne

In the foreword to Landscapes of South Australia, Murray Bramwell notes that a landscape is a scene seen from a single aspect. He notes that Frayne helps us see, almost for the first time, what it is that has been seen many times before. It is an act of revelation. My hope, in this interview is to shed some light, on local photographer and artist, Alex Frayne, so that those of us who have seen his work, can have the artist revealed.

Landscapes of South Australia on Wakefield Press

Alex Frayne Facebook Page

Alex, this chat will be more about themes rather than be based upon specific questions. There is much we can dwell upon and I expect that every stop along the way has great potential for unending conversation. But I’d like to start with the art and/or discipline of “seeing” the familiar. And perhaps your image, Maslin Beach, is a good start for undressing this topic because I’ve just come back from there, but your lens has shown that coastline in its full morning glory – autumnal tones, some water, some vegetation – it was rich and lavish and is right under our noses. How do you decide where to stop and shoot.

You have revealed the autumnal palate in many of your shots – a palate I have been hitherto unaware of. Take us through your journey of seeing light – from your time in England, to your time here in South Australia.

The outback inspires many – I’ve just returned from it – but you talk about its allure in terms of photographic nothingness – negative space. What do you mean and how does that affect your framing?

You are so masterful with your work but you also admit the Mallee has not been conquered yet. What is the challenge?

You have a film making background and I know you argue that film makers prefer night lighting. Isn’t that the bain of photography, due to grain? What’s the allure and is there such as thing as perfect black?

How do you choose between portrait, landscape, or square? And what determines the depth of an image?

Landscape photography, indeed, art itself, requires patience from three parties – the artist, the audience, and the patron, benefactor, or client who funds it. Let’s look at each one.

The artist – how do you summon the focus to have patience? And does that mean returning to a location numerous times? And how long before you admit defeat?

The audience – a coffee table book demands a coffee table and time to be spent at one. Who is the audience? How do we become your audience? And are there less of us due to us being glued to mobile phones?

The patron. In this case, Wakefield Press. They need patience for the momentum to build, do they not? What gets you that sort of support? In fact, you quit film making because photography was more lucrative. That surprises me. Can you explain?

My favourite shot from you book is The Long Dark. An Ampol service station at night, in Wistow. We see it and we see the road disappear into pitch black. That leads to introspection. Is that what you want?

There was also some fear in that photo. You say film makers still use the aussie landscape to inspire fear – you see it for revelation. Wy the difference? Isn’t it just darkness, ANYWHERE, that inspires fear?

Light Visions, Dark Intervals – tell us about this

Now, pitch the book.

01:34:46 Musical Pilgrimage

In the musical pilgrimage, we have a fitting song from Magic Tortoise, entitled, Wild. Follow Magic Tortoise on Facebook.

Magic Tortoise performs quirky, atmospheric, alt-folk music and they were brought to our attention by band member, Tim Seeley, whom Steve met last week on Hamilton Island (a perfect tortoise location, maybe).

Their next show is Friday, August 20, 2021, at Captain Rehab's, Nile St, Port Adelaide.

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Jim Manning has been well known to The Adelaide Show audience. The former chair of WOW-FM collaborated with us for election coverage specials, and supported us by connecting passionate South Australians to our style of conversational podcast, driven by curiosity.

Jim died on June 6, 2021, losing out to pancreatic cancer, and this episode is our short tribute. More details below.

Thanks to Jim, the SA Drink Of The Week is a D'Arenberg Dead Arm Shiraz.

And in the musical pilgrimage we have a track from Loren Kate called Old Friend.

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