Pythonic - Set You Free 

Pythonic is a Canadian death-groove metal band hailing from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Drawing inspiration from groove and death metal giants like Lamb of God, The Black Dahlia Murder, Morbid Angel, and Devildriver, the band blends crushing riffs with unrelenting energy. Striving for the tightest live sound possible while delivering an electrifying stage presence, Pythonic is truly a sonic force to be reckoned with. Over the years, the band has seen many lineup changes, but two core members have remained constant. Lead guitarist Ryan Hunter, the resident guitar prodigy, shreds some of the grooviest riffs and most blistering solos. Rhythm guitarist Vincent Kohut brings a machine-like precision, combining thick low-end riffing with razor-sharp tremolo picking.

The 2025 and beyond lineup is the tightest and most prolific in Pythonic’s history:

Jayden Warriner – skin-slapping powerhouse on drums

Morgan Warriner – a vocalist with a beastly range that will leave your head spinning

Max Hiske – the latest addition, locking down the low end and slappin’ da bass with fury

Together, this lineup delivers the full-throttle sonic assault that defines Pythonic.

Morgan Warriner transitioned from bass to lead vocals, writing and learning a full setlist of songs ahead of Pythonic’s first show of 2025—Serenade Metal Fest in Edmonton, held in February.

During the early months of the year, Alex Conley filled in on bass. After Alex left to pursue school, he was replaced by bass phenom Max Hiske. By the end of June, Max played his first show with Pythonic, which also marked Morgan’s third performance as lead vocalist.

Just one week later, we had the honor of opening for local legends Lava Goat and international heavy-hitters 200 Stab Wounds.

Pythonic’s current lineup is a force to be reckoned with.


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In this episode, Pipeman sits down with Michael Hayes and Katie Baxter of Core Collective Talent Agency. They dive into the journey of artist development, the importance of community in the music industry, insights from Incarceration Festival, and how Core Collective aims to elevate emerging bands. The discussion highlights the challenges and fulfillment of balancing artistry with management, and why healthy competition fuels growth.Main Topics Covered

• The origin and mission of Core Collective Talent Agency
• Artist development and booking philosophy
• The music scene in Ohio and cultivating community
• Stories and experiences from Incarceration Festival
• The importance of artist-run management
• How artists can connect and stand out to agencies
• Perspectives on healthy competition in the industry

Key Discussions & StoriesCore Collective's Beginnings & Approach

• Mikey Hayes shares how Core Collective was born from the challenge of finding representation for his band, Fight From Within, leading him to book their own tours and help friends do the same 03:17.
• Katie Baxter emphasizes their holistic approach: combining booking, promotion, management, and press to support artists at every level 01:25.

Building Artists and Community

• Core Collective focuses on developing artists as a stepping stone to greater opportunities—even if that means helping artists move on to bigger agencies 01:14.
• Their motto: “artist for artist”—support is stronger when you’ve walked the same path 02:45.

Festival Highlights & Ohio Music Scene

• Both Mikey Hayes and Katie Baxter praise the vibrant artist community in Ohio, sharing stories of collaboration and camaraderie at Incarceration Festival and other local venues 01:51, 05:05.
• They shout out industry peers and highlight the festival’s support for up-and-coming acts like Veda from Vicar Blood 05:32.

Advice for Aspiring Artists

• To reach out to agencies, artists need market demand and a team mentality—stand out by doing something different before expecting support Mikey Hayes 06:12.
• Katie Baxter explains the importance of artist development and creating demand for yourself, but affirms their willingness to help those starting out 07:13.

Healthy Competition and Teamwork

• Mikey Hayes encourages cooperative competition: “It does not have to be toxic… compete together” 07:44.
• The group stresses picking each other up, focusing on positive, united growth within the community 08:24.

Notable Quotes

• “Artist for artist. We definitely look at it that way.” – Katie Baxter 02:46
• “You have to make sure that there’s something there where you can work as a team, because a lot of people want to get on the road and they don’t have a lot to offer.” – Mikey Hayes 06:54
• “Everyone work together, build each other up.” – Katie Baxter 07:42
• “This is a competition, but it does not have to be toxic.” – Mikey Hayes 07:52

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Core Collective Talent Agency
  • Instagram: @corecollectivetalent
  • Website: corecollectivetalent.com
  • Facebook: Core Collective Talent
• Email for opportunities and inquiries via their website’s contact form 06:21
• Bands mentioned:
  • Fight From Within
  • Young Mosh
  • Saving Vice
  • Aimpoint
  • Unsettled
  • Kings and Thieves
  • Vicar Blood

Connect with the Guests

• Mikey Hayes & Katie Baxter: Core Collective Talent on all major platforms and via corecollectivetalent.com

Closing ThoughtThe episode wraps with a call for unity and positivity in the music industry—“If somebody falls, pick them up… that’s life” Mike Hayes 08:24—underscoring Core Collective’s ethos of collaborative growth.

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The conversation focused on the journey of Alien Ant Farm, touching on their live performance at Inkcarceration, the lead vocalist’s personal growth and sobriety, the challenges and rewards of a decades-long music career, and what lies ahead for the band. Several personal anecdotes illuminated the ups and downs of life on the road, the cultural push for partying in music circles, and how sobriety reshapes passion and presence on stage.Main Topics Covered

• Alien Ant Farm's performance and experience at Inkcarceration
• The realities and pressures of touring and the music lifestyle
• Sobriety: motivations, challenges, and impact on creativity
• Balancing career longevity and artistic fulfillment
• Upcoming projects and band milestones
• The importance of introspection and reinventing joy in music

Key Discussions & StoriesReflecting on Stage Life and Festival Growth

• The discussion explored what it’s like to go straight from the stage to interviews, especially in challenging conditions like extreme heat 00:44.
• A key theme that emerged was the evolution of the Incarceration festival, noting its massive expansion and bigger crowds since previous years 02:09.

Sobriety and Personal Change

• One concept discussed was the motivation behind getting sober. The journey wasn’t prompted by a dramatic “bottom” but by fatigue with apologies and the need to show up authentically for loved ones 02:38.
• The conversation focused on the tension between the rock culture's celebration of excess and the decision to step away from it for personal well-being 04:16.

Life Off-Stage: Finding New Passions

• Several points were raised, including hobbies outside music: crafting bioactive enclosures for chameleons, building insect cages, and making jewelry boxes for moths 05:44.

The Reality of Performing Sober

• The discussion explored how performing sober brings a new level of anxiety but also a deeper sense of care and responsibility for the art and audience 06:46.
• Anecdotes about stage personas and wild stories from bandmates highlighted the duality of fun and regret often associated with substance use 07:29.

Artistic Longevity & Future Plans

• A key theme that emerged was the push to continue touring internationally, finish a new record with notable producer Howard Benson, and stay connected to authentic motivation rather than simply “filling the calendar” 09:36.
• The importance of self-reflection and remembering the passion for music that started the journey was emphasized 10:44.

Notable Quotes

• “I come out here to do this, so I’m glad to do it... I’m happy that there’s a curiosity for our band. We’re going on 30 years now of trekking around the world and the country…” 01:02
• “I was a good, I was a cool loving dad as a drunk too, but I’m just a better, way more present dude, you know, when I’m focused and there, you know.” 03:22
• “In the music business, debauchery is celebrated, bro. It’s almost like, come on, you got to have a drink with us… and when you’re 22, that’s pretty cool. Then 23, then 33, then 40, you’re like, well, hold on a sec, I’m supposed to get off this bus, bro.” 04:16
• “There’s a lot of it sometimes where I feel like we take shows on to fill that calendar, and then halfway through it, I’m like, what am I doing out here kind of thing. That’s where that sobriety thing kicks in.” 10:35
• “15-year-old you would have been freaking the hell out about all of this stuff that you’re complaining about. You’d have slapped yourself right now, bro.” 10:53

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Official Website: alienantfarm.com
• Band Store: alienantfarmstore.com
• Instagram: Find the band on Instagram for updates on tours and releases
• Anthology Record: Pre-orders available for their first anthology record on vinyl 11:36

For upcoming tour dates, releases, and news, visit the official Alien Ant Farm website and follow them on social media.

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In this episode, Pipeman chats with Matty Mullins, vocalist for Memphis May Fire and Anberlin, live from the Inkcarceration festival at the historic Shawshank Prison. They discuss the unique atmosphere of performing at the prison, balancing two successful bands, recent and upcoming albums, haunted experiences at the venue, personal philosophies on gratitude and hard work, and exciting touring updates.Main Topics Covered

• Performing at the historic Shawshank Prison during a festival
• Challenges of singing in difficult environments (smoke, festival dust)
• Ghost stories and haunted tours associated with the venue
• Matty Mullins’ experiences with Memphis May Fire and Anberlin
• Juggling work and creativity across two bands
• New album “Shapeshifter” and other upcoming music releases
• Reflections on gratitude, hard work, and authenticity in the music industry
• Upcoming tours, festivals, and band member news

Key Discussions & StoriesPerforming at Shawshank Prison

• Pipeman and Matty Mullins talk about the surreal experience of performing with the backdrop of the infamous prison, drawing parallels with Johnny Cash and live performances for actual inmates within earshot (01:15–03:19).
• Haunted history discussed, including stories like Waylon Reavis's alleged encounter in the “torture room” and the eerie Blood Prison tour (01:46–02:40).

Coping with Challenging Environments

• Effects of festival dust and smoke on performing and vocal health (00:34–00:56).
• Strategies and mindset for singing under less-than-ideal conditions.

Memphis May Fire & Amberlynn Updates

• Latest Memphis May Fire album “Shapeshifter” is out; ongoing touring cycle (04:11–04:28).
• Matty Mullins shares details about Amberlynn’s upcoming album and single, set to release in November (04:45–04:56).

Balancing Two Bands

• Insights on balancing life and creativity between Memphis May Fire and Anberlin (05:11–06:04).
• Gratitude for having musical opportunities, referencing the many talented people who never get out of their bedrooms (05:24–05:45).

Creative Exploration & Mindset

• Discussion about exercising different creative muscles across bands and avoiding complacency (06:35–07:04).
• Recognition of how stepping outside comfort zones leads to artistic growth.

Tour & Life Updates

• Upcoming tours in South America and with Switchfoot (04:28–08:28).
• Anberlin, playing Warped in Mexico; pauses in touring as a band member welcomes a baby (07:59–08:19).

Notable Quotes

• “With the smoke, it’s no—they’re not playing out here, man. We’re gonna have to be extra careful.” — Matty Mullins (00:41)
• “Gratitude is everything and mindset is everything. ... To have double the work is not something to complain about.” — Matty Mullins (05:24)
• “You’re supposed to feel the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, and I was like, dang, dude, I don’t know if this is for me, dude.” — Matty Mullins (02:36)
• “Rain or shine, smoke or clear, we’re doing it.” — Matty Mullins (04:02)
• “My schedule is unbelievable. Like, truly, I don’t know how it’s happening, you know, just one day at a time. But it’s always something to be thankful for.” — Matty Mullins (05:56)

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Memphis May Fire tour dates and news: memphismayfire.com (07:43)
• Latest album: “Shapeshifter” by Memphis May Fire (04:20)
• Anberlin upcoming album and single (title not yet announced; album due in November) (04:50)
• Upcoming Anberlin & Switchfoot tour (September–November) (08:19)
• Warped Tour Mexico appearance

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For the latest from Matty Mullins and Memphis May Fire, visit the links above.

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The conversation focused on unique experiences in the music industry, from playing festivals in unusual locations like historic prisons to navigating the challenges of press and public life as an artist. One concept discussed was the intersection of personal identity and performance persona, as well as the ways musicians cope with the demands of fandom and the repetitive nature of interviews. The discussion explored paranormal stories, the philosophy of neutrality and people-pleasing, and the realities of life on tour.Main Topics Covered

• Performing at historic, haunted venues and music festivals
• Supernatural and paranormal experiences, including haunted prisons and houses
• The psychology behind people-pleasing and neutrality, especially among Libras
• Experiences with press and media as artists
• The realities of touring: forgetfulness, festival dust, schedule changes, and coping as a vocalist
• The distinction between an artist’s stage persona and personal life
• Fandom, artist-fan interactions, and the challenges of remembering individual fans
• Announcements of new music releases

Key Discussions & Stories

• Several points were raised about performing at the Incarceration festival held at a former prison, including ghost stories and haunted buildings 00:19.
• The Axe Murder House in Villisca and the weight and atmosphere of places with dark histories 03:37.
• A story involving the Anne Frank House and the strong, “dark energy” experienced on a visit 04:44.
• Reflections on personal experiences with the occult, hauntings, and psychic relatives 05:53.
• A key theme that emerged was the struggle between being balanced and decisive as Libras, as well as the “toxic trait” of neutrality and people-pleasing 08:36.
• Insights into the pressure artists face when asked repetitive or irrelevant interview questions, such as being asked about acting roles years after the fact 13:26.
• The discussion explored how musicians and radio personalities often play roles or personas that differ from their private selves 17:56.
• Stories about the difficulty of remembering fans and even fellow performers after years of touring and hundreds of interactions 21:54.
• Practical hurdles of festival life: changing set times, poor air quality, performing through dust and humidity, and missing fellow bands’ sets for necessary self-care 25:04.
• Emphasis on the importance of flexibility and not letting unforeseen circumstances derail the joy of performing 27:31.

Notable Quotes

• “Everything, every dream in your life will come true, but never the way that you imagine it.” 27:40
• “The artist is the most critical of themselves, and most of the people in the crowd don’t even know when you mess up.” 26:37
• “As long as you’re not intentionally hurting anybody, and it makes you a better person, you do you.” 11:04
• “People are that stupid. I just have to say, they are. As a radio personality, I play a role.” 17:56
• “You can only hear, ‘oh my God, you’re so cool,’ a couple of times, believe me.” 21:19

Resources & Links Mentioned

• New Single: “Golden Crown,” released today 28:59
• Upcoming Album: Empty on the Inside releasing October 23rd 29:07
• Band on Tour: Mention of tour with Jinjer 27:07

Additional Notes

• The conversation highlighted the often-overlooked human side of artists, advocating for more thoughtful, genuine interactions.
• For more information and to check out the new releases, follow Entheos on streaming platforms and social media.

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In this episode, Pipeman interviews the Warden’s Widow, a prominent haunt actor at the Blood Prison haunted house at the historic Ohio State Reformatory—famously known as Shawshank Prison. The episode dives into the evolution of the Warden’s Widow character, the immersive experience of Blood Prison, the unique atmosphere of hosting a haunted attraction in a real, storied prison, and the intersection of music festivals with haunted house culture.
Main Topics Covered

• Origins & Evolution of the Warden's Widow Character
  • Starting as a volunteer for volunteer hours in National Honor Society
  • Growth from a simple tattered wedding dress to elaborate costumes and makeup changes over the years 01:06
• Blood Prison Experience
  • Yearly haunted house running through October weekends
  • Immersive sets, professional makeup, actor training, and sensory overload 03:28
  • Separation of Blood Prison from other haunted houses thanks to the real prison setting 05:25
• The Shawshank (Ohio State Reformatory) Setting
  • The building’s haunting beauty and rich history 02:20
  • Exploring new corners even after years of working there
• Supernatural & Unsettling Experiences
  • Skepticism vs. anecdotal ghost stories among actors 04:19
  • Personal accounts of unexplained scratches from both guests and musicians 04:30
• Festival & Haunted House Synergy
  • Unique atmosphere made possible by having music festivals and haunt actors together 07:53
  • The perfect genre match of heavy music and the haunted experience
• Activities for All at the Reformatory
  • Haunted house, historical tours, coffee shop, movie nights, lights-on tours, ghost hunts 06:16
• Social Media & Community Engagement
  • Blood Prison’s viral TikToks with millions of views, driven by realistic makeup and creative videos 09:10
  • Suggestions for visitors to experience both the history and the fright by visiting day and night

Key Stories & Discussion Highlights

• The Warden’s Widow philosophy: "If I can take the man down in the group, the rest will go with him" 00:49
• The impact of evolving costumes and setting a new standard each year 01:35
• The building’s atmosphere unnerving even the most frequent visitors, contributing naturally to the haunted experience 02:21
• Scratches mysteriously appearing on actors, and musicians with similar experiences while filming in the infamous torture room 04:30, 04:47
• Actor training for immersive scares beyond typical haunted house jump-scares 07:25
• Viral social media moments: flagged for makeup realism and unexpectedly gaining millions of views 09:10
• Recommendations for getting the full Blood Prison experience by touring both day and night 08:29

Notable Quotes

• "I created this character way back in the beginning of when I started here, and she has definitely evolved."
• "I think the costuming and the makeup is the biggest evolution. We change our costumes up every couple years. We want to keep it fresh."
• "The amount of time and effort that everybody, our whole team, has put into making this show come alive. The most immersive sets you're gonna see."
• "We pride ourselves in kind of training our actors to do more immersive scares...the next actor is going to be fully immersive and do a different kind of experience with you."
• "You have to see it to just kind of experience it and understand."
• "The one that took off for us was one that we kept getting flagged for, like, our makeups being too realistic, but it took off...at like 3 or 4 million views on it."

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Blood Prison Ohio (find on all major socials):
  • TikTok: Blood Prison Ohio
  • Instagram: Blood Prison Ohio
  • Facebook: Blood Prison Ohio
• Warden’s Widow:
  • TikTok: Warden’s Widow
  • Instagram: Warden’s Widow
• Location:
  • Ohio State Reformatory (aka “Shawshank Prison”), Mansfield, OH
• Recommendations:
  • Visit both in the day for a historical tour and at night for the haunted experience 08:29

Final Words The episode closes with an invitation: "You have to come see it to understand it...come check us out and have fun." 09:34 For the full haunted and historic adventure, check out Blood Prison’s upcoming events and follow Warden’s Widow and Blood Prison on social media.


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The conversation focused on the return of Earshot to the festival scene, mental health in the music industry, and lessons learned from years of touring and recording. Set against the historic backdrop of a prison and referencing the Shawshank Redemption, the discussion explored how community and authenticity shape both the personal and professional aspects of a musical career.Main Topics Covered

• Performing at Incarceration Festival and its unique atmosphere
• The impact and necessity of hiatuses in creative careers
• Mental health, burnout, and finding joy in music again
• Challenges of the music business versus the love of music itself
• The role of authenticity and writing music for oneself
• Community and connection within music festivals and rock culture
• Coping skills and personal development outside of music
• The evolution of music promotion with streaming platforms

Key Discussions & StoriesPlaying Inside a Prison

• The discussion explored the surreal experience of performing at a historical prison, adding excitement due to its association with the Shawshank Redemption and unique festival energy 00:19.

Festival Crowd and Community

• Several points were raised, including the impressive turnout for Earshot's early slot at the festival and the well-organized, though chaotic, festival feeling 01:48.
• A key theme that emerged was the sense of belonging and family found within festival and rock communities, contrasting outside perceptions of mosh pits with their actual camaraderie and support 08:53.

Stepping Away and Coming Back

• The conversation focused on Earshot’s multi-year hiatus, the reasons behind it, and the rejuvenation felt upon returning to the stage 02:50.
• Recharge, mental health challenges, and rediscovering passion were at the center of this break 03:29.

The Music Business vs. the Love of Music

• One concept discussed was balancing the joy of creating and performing against the difficulties of the industry 04:08. "You have to love making music more than you hate the music business," was presented as a mantra for longevity 04:31.

Authenticity in Songwriting

• There was considerable emphasis on writing music you love rather than chasing hits, with advice for new artists to focus on authenticity 09:55.
• The discussion highlighted how listeners apply their own meanings to songs and the drawbacks of dictating a song’s specific meaning to an audience 16:09.

Coping Skills and Self-Development

• The conversation explored adopting coping strategies such as focusing on what you can control and developing self-awareness through personal development and coaching 11:03.

The “Should Have” Trap

• A key theme was eliminating the word "should" from criticism and self-talk, replacing it with "could have" to foster growth instead of conflict 12:47.

Notable Quotes

• "You have to love making music more than you hate the music business." 04:31
• "Write what you love and do the best you can." 15:17
• "None of this shit is in my control. I'm just staying in my lane, doing what I do." 10:51
• "Music's the best therapy, the best uniter, especially this genre." 08:46
• "If artists aren't having fun playing up there, what are you doing in this business?" 04:41
• "You could have shoulda all over yourself." 12:45
• "The best songs also the audience puts their own meaning to, right? They just have to feel." 15:35

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Earshot Website: earshotband.com
• Social Media: @EarshotBand across platforms
• Streaming: Find Earshot on Spotify, Apple Music, and other major services. Following Earshot on these platforms will alert listeners to new music and local tour dates.
• Upcoming Shows: Dates to be announced; check website and socials for updates.

Additional Highlights

• The discussion explored parallels between athletes and musicians regarding the value of stepping back to refocus.
• Several points were raised about the ways streaming platforms now integrate tour dates and how that aids both artists and fans 18:09.
• There was a playful conversation about running for president and satire around election choices, underlying the desire for unity through music rather than politics 07:07.

For updates, merchandise, and tour news, visit earshotband.com or follow Earshot on all major streaming and social platforms at @EarshotBand.

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The conversation focused on the band Versus Me at the Inkcarceration Festival held at the historic Shawshank Prison. The episode explored the meaning behind their latest single, the unique festival setting, their experiences performing at the event, upcoming tour plans, and the band's personal dynamics as siblings. The discussion also delved into the evolving music industry, fan engagement, and the importance of supporting independent artists.Main Topics Covered

• The emotional depth of Versus Me's new single and its themes of loss and reconnecting with people still alive
• Unique atmosphere of the Incarceration Festival, held at Shawshank Prison
• Versus Me's festival performance experience and fan turnout
• Community response and local engagement with the festival
• The band's upcoming plans: new singles, studio time, and US tour
• Sibling dynamics within the band and personal insights
• Merch design, sales, and support from fans
• Aspirations for future international performances
• Festival culture and treatment of artists, specifically at Danny Wimmer Presents events
• Evolution of music styles and fan acceptance

Key Discussions & StoriesThe Meaning Behind "Meet Again"

• One concept discussed was the song's foundation on the emotional experience of losing someone who is still alive and questioning if paths will ever cross again (00:48).
• A key theme that emerged was grieving for living people and the emotional turmoil it creates.

Festival Experience at Shawshank Prison

• The discussion explored the surreal atmosphere of performing at an iconic, historic prison (01:23).
• Several points were raised, including the proximity to an active prison and joking about playing music for inmates like Johnny Cash (02:31).

Community Engagement

• The tight-knit local community's tradition of camping on lawns to enjoy the festival was highlighted (03:05).
• The event's importance as a yearly highlight for residents added to the festival’s significance.

Upcoming Plans

• Versus Me plans to hit the studio, release new singles in the fall, and embark on a US tour in September and October (04:59).

Sibling Bond and Off-Stage Life

• The siblings shared personal anecdotes, including cutting each other's hair and the importance of presenting well on stage (05:45).

Merch and Fan Support

• Merchandise design is handled mainly by their guitarist, Dustin, who is a graphic designer (07:11).
• Buying merch and streaming music are both emphasized as vital ways fans can support the band directly (08:09).

Artistic Aspirations and Genre Evolution

• Aspirations to play arena shows and perform overseas, with specific interest in Germany, Sweden, and Japan due to enthusiastic music scenes and fan analytics (09:27).
• Evolving their musical style while maintaining connections with their original fan base was a recurring topic (14:17).

Festival Culture and Artist Support

• The professionalism and artist-first approach of Danny Wimmer Presents festivals, especially their logistical organization and treatment of performers, was praised (12:14).
• Stress-free events allow bands to deliver their best performance, benefiting both artists and fans (13:15).

Notable Quotes

• “It's kind of like the emotional turmoil of losing somebody that's still alive and wondering if you're ever going to cross paths with them again.” (00:54)
• “Grieving somebody that's still alive.” (01:13)
• “You want to perfect your craft, but also you want to see what else you can do.” (14:21)
• “As an independent band... streaming the music does help. That does help.” (08:09)
• “Danny Wimmer Presents makes sure everybody's on the same page. You get here and everybody takes care of you.” (12:14)
• “Thank you very much for constantly supporting us—whether it be, like you said, out to the shows, streaming, literally all of it. We see it all.” (13:39)

Resources and Links Mentioned

• Versus Me’s official merchandise shop (no specific URL provided)
• Recommendation to stream the new single “Meet Again”
• Acknowledgment of notable international festivals: Wacken (Germany), Hellfest (France), Download Festival (UK)
• Direct engagement on the band’s social media channels

Call to Action

• Listen to Versus Me’s latest single, "Meet Again."
• Support the band by purchasing merch and streaming their music.
• Follow Versus Me on social media for band updates and direct interaction.
• Catch them live at upcoming shows and stay tuned for new releases this fall.

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The conversation focused on the band If Not For Me as they recount experiences playing at Shawshank Prison during a festival, their journey into music, and what it means to perform at such iconic venues. The discussion explored the unique culture and atmosphere of different festivals, the band's musical origins, connections formed through their local scene, and exciting upcoming releases and tours.Main Topics Covered

• Playing at Shawshank Prison and festival experiences
• Differences among major rock festivals
• Personal stories about discovering music and joining the band
• The allure of haunted locations and ghost tours
• Details about new music and upcoming tours
• Importance of buying merch and supporting artists

Key Discussions & StoriesFestival Atmosphere at Shawshank Prison

• The intense festival environment, including dust, heat, and “fire festival” vibes, and what it’s like to play in such an unconventional location was discussed at 00:55.
• Several points were raised, including enthusiasm about attending a ghost tour at the infamous venue and the intriguing, haunted history attached to performing inside a real prison 01:18, 03:19.

The Distinct Culture of Rock Festivals

• One concept discussed was how each festival, particularly the Whimmer festivals, has its own unique vibe and culture, creating diverse experiences for both performers and fans 03:00.
• Playing early sets to packed, energetic crowds highlighted how passionate rock fans are, regardless of the hour 01:42.

Memorable Festival Moments

• Driving on the Daytona Speedway for a show at Welcome to Rockville was a wild and memorable experience, especially marveling at the steep banking of the track 04:11.
• The fun, risky thought of skateboarding down the Daytona wall and the caution exercised to avoid injury or losing festival credentials was shared at 04:46.

Musical Origins and Band Formation

• Each band member shared their journey into music, including early influences, stories about receiving instruments, and the transformative moment of seeing metalcore shows for the first time 06:46 – 10:50.
• A key theme that emerged was the pivotal role of local music scenes and how members’ previous bands eventually dissolved, enabling them to unite as If Not For Me.

Humor and Band Lore

• The discussion explored common, often over-asked interview questions and shared a humorous anecdote about the origins of August Burns Red’s band name, including their playful fabrications to interviewers 11:06.

Upcoming Releases and Band Info

• If Not For Me announced their new record, When the Light Begins to Fade, releasing August 14, and discussed excitement for an upcoming fall tour with Wind Walkers and a new collaborative single 13:13.
• Several points were raised, including encouragement to buy the album and merch in addition to streaming 13:50.

Notable Quotes

• "We're just stoked to experience all these Winterfests and just see how different they are and how the culture is. And it's just been so good. So we're happy to be here." 02:48
• "The people who want to keep doing this, I'm a firm believer, are going to make it happen." 09:39
• "Forget streaming it only. Stream it, but buy it too." 13:53
• "We're cellmates now." 14:13

Resources & Links

• If Not For Me on Socials:
  Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and YouTube – all under “If Not For Me”
  (Direct links are accessible via the link in their social bios)
• Merch & Music:
  • Merch, website, and label site are accessible through their social bio link 13:21
  • New record: When the Light Begins to Fade available August 14
  • Tour dates and merch preorders available through their website and socials

Connect & Support

• Support If Not For Me by purchasing their album, preordering vinyls, and checking out their new collaboration with Wind Walkers.
• Follow their social media for the latest updates and direct access to merch, tour info, and new releases.

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The conversation focused on the intersection of music, technology, and personal stories as Rev Theory’s Julian Jorgensen discussed his experiences performing at unique venues such as Aftershock and the Shawshank penitentiary, the role of AI in modern music creation, reflections on influential films, and the importance of adapting to a changing creative and professional landscape.Main Topics Covered

• Performing at historic and unconventional venues (Aftershock, Inkcarceration at Shawshank)
• Encounters with "ghosts" and the visceral energy of live shows
• Reflections on Shawshank prison and its cultural impact
• The philosophy found in films like Shawshank Redemption, Star Wars, and The Matrix
• AI’s transformative role in music creation and content output
• The debate between traditional (analog) and modern (AI-driven) methods in music production
• Lessons from sales and business, drawing comparisons to Boiler Room, The Wolf of Wall Street, and real-life retail experiences
• The importance of continual evolution in both art and business

Key Discussions & StoriesUnique Performance Spaces

• The discussion explored the surreal feelings of playing shows at places like Inkcarceration, set within the infamous Shawshank prison yard, invoking both nervous excitement and a sense of history 00:19.
• Stories recounted nerves from minimal show preparation and the ghostly, almost spiritual experience that comes from performing in such storied environments 01:02.

Reflections on Shawshank & Pop Culture

• Several points were raised, including the enduring legacy and pervasive broadcast of The Shawshank Redemption, with Jorgensen calling it “one of the most impactful pieces of philosophy” for his generation 03:40.
• The conversation focused on how films like Star Wars and The Matrix offer spiritual or philosophical guidance for modern audiences 04:07.
• One concept discussed was the power of positive thinking, relating “the Force” in Star Wars to real-world motivational principles 04:21.

AI and the Modern Creative Process

• A key theme that emerged was the embrace of AI by musicians and artists, both in the creation of visuals and in music composition 07:21.
• Discussion explored how AI enables instant translation of inspiration into music, bypassing lengthy logistics and politics. Jorgensen highlighted that now demos can become releases in real time, enhancing creative spontaneity 08:00.
• The episode drew direct parallels to the difference between those who adapt to technology and those stuck in “WKRP in Cincinnati” nostalgia for outdated processes 09:48.
• Several points were raised, including the generational divide within bands regarding the adoption of AI tools versus traditional recording environments 10:09.

Sales Lessons, Business Parallels, and Long Island Stories

• The discussion explored how old habits can hinder adaptation, with both music and business examples. Notable references were made to sales cultures depicted in Boiler Room and the real-life rivalry with the famed Wolf of Wall Street 13:05.
• Key stories shared included running a pool and spa store (Harro’s) and the fate of family businesses when handed over to unprepared heirs 16:31.
• Sales strategies and success, the importance of returning to basics during slumps, and the impact of learning afresh rather than relying on outdated experience, were all discussed 15:05.

The Future of Content and Collaboration

• The conversation closed with mention of new musical releases under a variety of “avatars” (Animator, Invader 76, Rev Theory) and the potential of creating AI-generated music for upcoming projects 19:40.

Notable Quotes

• “The ghosts of the past definitely visited...but it makes you feel alive, you know?” 01:20
• “Shawshank’s up there...it’s one of the most impactful, you know, pieces of philosophy essentially that our generation has.” 03:42
• “The demos were the best the day you created them. That’s when you need to release it. And I do believe that AI allows me to do that.” 08:13
• “If you can keep up to that pace, then you’re the 12-year-old that has the same tools, that is digitally native. If you don’t do that, then you’re a dinosaur.” 09:14
• “You need to evolve. Or die in whatever you do. So you can hold on to, hey, I want things the old way, but the new way is going to happen whether you participate or not.” 09:53
• “As long as it’s good, that’s all that matters. As long as it’s great, that’s all that matters.” 11:16
• “The less you know, the more you act that way, right?” 15:23

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Rev Theory — new music across platforms like Pandora and Spotify, including releases under Julian Jorgensen’s own projects: Animator, Invader 76, and others 19:40
• Cultural references: The Shawshank Redemption, Star Wars, The Matrix, Boiler Room, The Wolf of Wall Street, Cadillac Man, WKRP in Cincinnati

Connect and Follow

• Check out Rev Theory, Animator, Invader 76, and related projects online for the latest music and content.
• Stay tuned for potential future collaborations—including AI-generated theme songs and possible tours.

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