The American Presidency is certainly among the world's most studied institutions, yet there is always more to learn. In this episode Rick interviews David Rubenstein, co-founder of The Carlyle Group and author of The Highest Calling: Conversations on the American Presidency. They explore Rubenstein's deep fascination with the U.S. presidency, stemming from his personal experiences in Washington and interviews with scholars and former presidents. Rubenstein shares insights into the leadership qualities of figures like Franklin D. Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, and modern presidents such as Obama, Trump, and George W. Bush. The conversation delves into the importance of voting, the influence of speechwriters, and how the presidency shapes history.

David's book, The Highest Calling: Conversations on the American Presidency, available now.

Timestamps:

(00:01:19) The Highest Calling

(00:07:15) Obama's legacy

(00:09:23) The hinge of history president

(00:19:26) George W. Bush

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