In this episode of The Art Career, Emily sits down with the incomparable Melissa Auf der Maur — musician, visual artist, filmmaker, and co-founder of the multidisciplinary arts center Basilica Hudson.

Known for her role as the bass player in iconic 1990s rock bands Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins, Melissa’s journey spans far beyond the stage. From self-producing solo albums to launching a nationally recognized cultural venue in Hudson, NY, Melissa has spent the past two decades creating space — literally and metaphorically — for artists to gather, experiment, and thrive.

This conversation covers the full spectrum of her creative life: music, motherhood, mythology, and the radical act of sustaining a long-term, independent practice. We also talk about her upcoming literary memoir, which will explore her time inside the legendary 1990s rock scene — set to be released in 2026 by Grand Central Publishing / Hachette Books.

We discuss:

• Touring the world with Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins

• Creating Basilica Hudson as a haven for artists and community

• Her deep roots in visual art and photography

• Storytelling, place-making, and the role of women in music history

• Writing her forthcoming memoir on the 90s rock era

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Melissa Auf der Maur was born and raised in Montreal, Canada where she received a fine arts education focused on music and photography. Auf der Maur is most prominently known for her
role as the bass player and band member in two Grammy Nominated and Winning 90’s rock bands, Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins. At the turn of the millennium, after multiple world tours she set off on her own to self-produce two solo albums, released on Capitol Records and
RoadRunner / Warner Brother Records. In 2010 she co-founded the multidisciplinary art center Basilica Hudson in Hudson, NY with filmmaker Tony Stone, which welcomes up to 20,000 yearly visitors to genre-pushing music festivals, large-scale marketplace events, film screenings, and public installations. In addition to her work as an arts and music curator at Basilica Hudson, Auf der Maur has produced films that have been presented at Sundance Film Festival, Berlin Film Festival, New Directors New Films, and released by NEON and Magnolia Pictures. Her photography work has been published in National Geographic, American Photo, SPIN and BUST Magazines, and exhibited at the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts and Sotheby's NY, among other venues. Her literary memoir, focusing on her time in the iconic 90’s rock scene, is due to be released in 2026 by Grand Central / Hachettes Books.

In this candid and richly layered episode, Emily sits down with artist and actress Jemima Kirke for a conversation that unfolds with wit, depth, and honesty. Best known for her role as Jessa in HBO’s Girls, Jemima is also a RISD-trained painter whose work explores vulnerability, womanhood, and identity through a deeply personal lens.

Jemima opens up about the nuances of balancing visibility in the film world with the more private act of painting, the impact of motherhood on her creative process, and why she remains uninterested in pleasing anyone but herself when it comes to making art.

The interview was photographed by the inimitable Matthew Tully Dugan, who captured Jemima at home—images as intimate and magnetic as the conversation itself.

As always, The Art Career Podcast is brought to you by a small but passionate team. These unscripted, heartfelt dialogues are made possible by a community that values art, storytelling, and truth. Thank you for being here.

Jemima Kirke is a British-American actress and visual artist. She rose to prominence for her role as Jessa Johansson on the HBO series Girls, and has since starred in acclaimed projects such as Conversations with Friends, Maniac, and Sex Education. A graduate of the Rhode Island School of Design, Jemima’s first love is painting—her figurative works often exploring themes of intimacy, identity, and the complexities of womanhood. Her art has been exhibited in both the U.S. and the UK, and she continues to cultivate a multidisciplinary practice that defies easy categorization.

Jemma Rose Brown is an artist, strategist and curator of cultural programs raised & based in NYC. Her approach is shaped by a decade+ career in podcasts and the audio industry. Jemma is the General Manager of The Signal Awards and Co-Creator of On Air Fest, the premiere event for audio storytelling. She is the Co-Founder of Cosmophage. Previously, she was the Director of creative agency work x work and a Producer at The Moth. Her projects have been covered widely in Vanity Fair, Wired, Forbes, Rolling Stone & more. Jemma sits on the Advisory Committee of UnionDocs Center for Documentary Art. Alongside her professional work, Jemma’s art practice is in incessant pursuit of intimacy: reaching across the asymptote of human experience to create momentary acts of connection. Jemma utilizes memoir, staged meals and performance to test the boundaries between self and other.

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Cultural Icons is here. A new editorial series by Emily McElwreath, spotlighting the spaces, brands, and experiences shaping today’s creative landscape.

As a curator, art advisor, and cultural journalist, Emily has spent years immersed in the art world, uncovering the people and places that truly move culture forward. Now, she’s bringing that insight to Cultural Icons—a definitive selection of the most inspiring destinations, institutions, and brands that understand the intersection of art, design, and experience.

In this episode, Emily introduces the vision behind Cultural Icons, how it expands upon The Art Career Podcast, and what’s to come. Stay tuned for the first feature this spring.

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In this episode of The Art Career, Emily travels to Galerie Lelong & Co in Chelsea to sit down with gallerist Mary Sabbatino.

Mary Sabbatino is Vice President and Partner of Galerie Lelong & Co., New York. She was appointed director of the New York location of Galerie Lelong & Co. in 1991 and became a gallery partner in 2007. In 2021, she was awarded the prestigious Chevalier de L’Ordre des Arts et des Lettres (Knight of the Order of Arts and Letters) from the Government of France. Championing a diverse roster of contemporary artists from throughout the world, the gallery has pioneered the community both in presenting a balanced roster of male and female artists, and artists from the Global South. Contributing to the overarching contemporary art scene, she served on the boards of ArtTable and the Executive Board of the Art Dealers’ Association of America, during which she initiated and co-authored the ADAA’s first code of ethics. Sabbatino served on the Selection Committee for Art Basel Miami Beach (2013-2020), the Art Basel Joint Selection Committee, and is a founding member of the Council for the Elizabeth Sackler Center for Feminist Art at the Brooklyn Museum, New York. In 2020, along with colleagues from international galleries, she initiated the platforms Galleries Curate and SOUTH SOUTH. In addition to fostering the careers and legacies of the gallery’s artists, Sabbatino co-curated Art from Brazil in New York (1995) which presented the first solo exhibitions of the region’s most vital figures—Waltercio Caldas, Cildo Meireles, Hélio Oiticica, Mira Schendel, and Tunga—and curated Juan Downey: Video Installations and Drawings (1995), at the Museo Bellas Artes, Santiago, Chile. The gallery is proud to have represented leading contemporary artists and estates for over twenty years, including Petah Coyne, Andy Goldsworthy, Jane Hammond, Alfredo Jaar, Cildo Meireles, the Estate of Ana Mendieta, Jaume Plensa, Kate Shepherd, the Estate of Nancy Spero, Ursula von Rydingsvard, and Krzysztof Wodiczko.

About Galerie Lelong & Co

Since 1991, Galerie Lelong & Co., New York, has championed a diverse roster of contemporary artists from throughout the world. Led by Mary Sabbatino, Vice President and Partner, the gallery has pioneered the community both in presenting a balanced roster of male and female artists, and artists from the Global South. The gallery’s programming is noted for its political acuity and museum-quality exhibitions that include contemporary sculpture and installations, as well as its work with artists to help develop large-scale public art commissions beyond the gallery’s walls. In tandem with the gallery’s artists who present works that examine the human condition and collective consciousness, Galerie Lelong & Co. demonstrates its commitment to social justice and good citizenship through charitable initiatives and collaborations. Galerie Lelong & Co. is a member of the Art Dealers’ Association of America, the most esteemed organization of art galleries in the United States.

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Welcome to episode 2 of Art21 x The Art Career: Behind the Lens—a series dedicated to the curators and filmmakers who create the magic behind Art21’s iconic documentaries and publications. Art21 is the world’s leading source to learn directly from the artists of our time.

In this episode, host Emily McElwreath sits down with Senior Producer for Art21, Ian Forster.

As a producer and director, Ian Forster creates documentary content for Art21’s various digital and broadcast programs. Since joining the organization in 2009, he has worked on six seasons of Art in the Twenty-First Century, most recently directing and producing “London” from the tenth season and “Johannesburg” from the ninth season. Additionally, he worked on the Peabody Award-winning film William Kentridge: Anything Is Possible and has overseen the digital series Extended Play since 2012, producing over 100 short artist portraits. Forster created the online video series Artist to Artist in 2013, which featured artists in conversation with their peers at international biennials.

His films have screened at festivals internationally, including DC Shorts, DOC NYC, and Artecinema, and have been honored with a Vimeo Staff Pick and as a Webby Award Honoree. He graduated from the Newhouse School at Syracuse University with a B.S. in Television, Radio, and Film.

About Behind the Lens

This season, we’re spotlighting the often-unsung visionaries—curators and filmmakers—who shape the stories behind today’s most influential contemporary artists. Behind the Lens offers a rare glimpse into how Art21’s groundbreaking films and publications come to life, bridging the gap between artists and audiences.

About Art21

Art21 is a celebrated nonprofit organization dedicated to inspiring a more creative world through the works and words of contemporary artists. Through their award-winning documentary series, educational programs, and digital resources, Art21 brings audiences closer to today’s leading artists and their processes. Learn more at ⁠art21.org⁠.

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On season 7, Episode 3 of The Art Career Podcast, Emily sits down with fashion photograher and director Brianna Capozzi in her Brooklyn, NY apartment.

First published in 2014, Brianna Capozzi has been working for over a decade to make distinctive images that have contributed to a movement of contemporary female-led fashion photography. Capozzi’s work places less emphasis on an ideal and instead uplifts the raw, fierce and playful that exists innately and uniquely in each subject. Her work demonstrates a fervent interest in the power, versatility, and inherent creative force of the female form.

Advertising: Adidas, Agent Provocateur, Alexander Wang, Bally, Bottega Veneta, Burberry, Calvin Klein, Carolina Herrera, Cartier, Chloe, Chopard, Deisel, DKNY, Eckhaus Latta, Fenty, Frankie’s Bikinis, GAP, Gucci, Jonathan Simkhai, Khaite, Marc Jacobs, Maryam Nassir Zadeh, Nike, Nordstrom, Pinko, Puma, Rare Beauty, Stella McCartney, Victoria’s Secret, Skims, Zara.

Editorial: All In, American Vogue, British Vogue, Beauty Papers, Blau, D Republica, Dazed & Confused, Double, Interview, M Le Monde, Marfa, Myth, Pop, Re-Edition, Vogue Italia.

Published: Well Behaved Women (Idea Book, 2018), Sisters (Idea Book, 2024)

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🎙️Season 7, Episode 2 of The Art Career Podcast – Emily McElwreath sits down with the incredible performance artistKinlaw in Chinatown, NYC.

Kinlaw is an audio composer, choreographer, and sculptor whose work highlights processes that accommodate and respond to the changing frequencies (i.e., liveness) of space. Their practice includes producing albums and creating large-scale performance works.

Kinlaw’s performance works have been featured in several museums and arts institutions, including MoMA, MoMA PS1, MOCA, The New Museum, Pioneer Works, and Mana Contemporary; and in arts venues throughout Europe. Kinlaw was a Pioneer Works Musician-in-Residence, as well as a member of New Inc at the New Museum, with work focusing on Experiments in Art and Technology and psychoacoustical research at Bell Labs.

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We’re launching Season 7 of The Art Career Podcast with a special collaboration, Art21 x The Art Career: Behind the Lens—a series dedicated to the curators and filmmakers who create the magic behind Art21’s iconic documentaries and publications. Art21 is the world’s leading source to learn directly from the artists of our time.

In this season’s premiere, host Emily McElwreath sits down with curator Jurrell Lewis to explore Artists and the Unknown, a compelling new book from Art21 that delves into the mysteries, curiosities, and uncertainties that drive contemporary art.

From the supernatural to the speculative, Artists and the Unknown captures how artists navigate the limits of human knowledge, embracing the unknown as a space for creativity and transformation. Jurrell Lewis brings his curatorial insight to this conversation, offering a deep dive into the book’s themes, featured artists, and the ways in which art helps us interpret the unexplainable.

 Artists and the Unknown is available HERE from Art21.

About Behind the Lens

This season, we’re spotlighting the often-unsung visionaries—curators and filmmakers—who shape the stories behind today’s most influential contemporary artists. Behind the Lens offers a rare glimpse into how Art21’s groundbreaking films and publications come to life, bridging the gap between artists and audiences.

About Art21

Art21 is a celebrated nonprofit organization dedicated to inspiring a more creative world through the works and words of contemporary artists. Through their award-winning documentary series, educational programs, and digital resources, Art21 brings audiences closer to today’s leading artists and their processes. Learn more at art21.org.

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Known for her large-scale, participatory installations, Molly Gochman speaks to Emily in this all new episode about caregiving, motherhood, artmaking, and monuments. This episode follows the recent release of her podcast, Monuments to Motherhood, alongside a series of new sculptural works of the same title which will be sited across New York City and the larger U.S early next year.

Molly Gochman, an artist and activist deeply engaged in social practice, focuses on activating spaces for profound collective experiences. Her practice encompasses a diverse range of mediums including photography, sound, installation, and sculpture. Through these mediums, she often challenges and subverts conventional material boundaries to foster interaction, play, exploration, and meaningful dialogue.
Molly frequently explores concepts encompassing human connection, environment, and community, rooted in the belief that life's experiences shape us. Guided by the concept that "life leathers us," her works not only aim to aestheticize but also reflect the passage of time through weather, wear, and change. Her practice continues to evolve with a desire to actively engage participants, inspire meaningful dialogues, find commonality, and discover shared human experiences.
Molly has exhibited her work at The Ukrainian Museum, New York; NYC Parks Art in the Parks; NADA House, New York; Lincoln Center, New York; Deborah Colton Gallery, Houston; Diverse Works, Houston; Chashama, New York; Sara Roney Gallery, Sydney; Grace Farms, New Canaan; Barbara Davis Gallery, Houston; Zilkha Hall, Houston; Elsewhere, Greensboro and other traditional and non-traditional exhibition spaces.
She received a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Sculpture from Guilford College. Originally from Texas, Molly is currently based in New York.

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