As the calander flips to early July, the conversation around college football and COVID-19 has seen increased queasiness. Every effort is being made to play football on schedule this fall, but as the country sees an uptick in cases, there's an ever-changing discussion on how to do so as safely as possible. The Athletic's Chris Vannini joins the podcast to shed light on the current feelings inside universities and athletic departments. Plus, 1981 and 1982 saw a pair of great moments in Tulane football history. Back-to-back wins over LSU in the Battle for the Rag. Michael McKay was the quarterback for both of those games and talks about his memories from those games.

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