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Carrie and Annemarie recap the first two episodes of Byron Velvick and (briefly) Jay Overbye's season! They discuss the show's more mature, relationship-minded tone, the way that the choice between the two leads reflects the political landscape and the origin of Annemarie's fear of fish!

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