Conflicting thoughts on having a decent rig and the consistency and dedication it takes to stay fit. Luke talks about crying when he couldn’t train. Ben reckons he stacked on 16kgs lifting tin.

The variable to success? What is it, why are we always banging on about it, how do I do it and should everyone do it?

You are what you think. So don't be a loser. How can you always stay positive? Good question!! Let's chat.

We've both started our own companies and it wasn't what it looks like of Instagram. We definitely couldn't afford to go to Coachella for about 3 years but we've cracked it now!!

Pay no rent. We did it for a couple of years before an unfortunate incident with the rich and famous. Talking about the benefits and why the hell you would do it for free!