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Dr. Pierre Fournier combines his knowledge in business analytics with his technological prowess to develop his company, Hexoskin. He strives to utilize wearable health sensors and AI technology to make a difference in health care.

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Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves. Today, I’m lucky to be joined by Pierre-Alexandre Fournier, who is currently based in Montreal in Canada. Hey, Pierre. How you doing?

Dr. Pierre Fournier: I’m good. Thanks for having me.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: No, I’m glad you could make it on. So I reached out to Pierre because we had actually been on the same Harvard Business School cohort back in 2014-2015 studying business analytics, economics as well as management as well. So it was interesting to see Pierre’s journey and how he’s used those skills and knowledge and combined it with his existing technological prowess to really bring his company, Hexoskin, which he is CEO of and founder of since 2006. And it’s been quite a lot of news recently with deals and partnerships that we will go into that sign. It’s quite exciting, especially for young people and young athletes and some of the studies he’s doing towards lifestyle medicine and measuring health metrics. So, Pierre, could you tell the listeners about your journey and your background?

Dr. Pierre Fournier: Yes, well, my background is engineering and science in general. I did my graduate studies in machine learning back in 2003-2005. And I’ve worked with different companies and telecom microelectronics and A.I. companies. And before I decided to start Hxoskin in 2006 with my co-founder and CTO, Jean-François. So the idea behind Hxoskin is to develop new tools to be able to monitor health in real-life situations. So we started pretty early in the industry, I’d say back in 2006. It was one year before Fitbit started. It was two years before the app store for iPhones. So we were a bit early, but we thought in 2006 that we were starting machine learning for health care companies. And then it became a remote monitoring platform because basically there was no data to do the machine learning that we wanted to do for preventative health and predictive analytics for healthcare. So we’ve built a platform first to be able to collect data. And now, finally, we’re able to develop algorithms for different event detection related to health or wellness, but also for chronic diseases and clinical trials.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: So that’s really quite cool how you’ve been able to overtime, really develop this platform in the wearable. So the wearable is obviously a vest that you wear which has this technology embedded in.

Dr. Pierre Fournier: Yes. So the Hxoskin can smart shirts, I would say, it’s the visible part of a deep software platform to collect data in real-life context so that the Hxoskin smart shirt monitors heart activity, so EKG, heart rate, heart rate variability. It monitors breathing, and not only breathing rate but complex breathing patterns as well. Ventilation, tidal volume. And it monitors activity and sleep as well.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Yeah. When I first came across it, I thought it was something out of the Avengers. You know, like an Iron Man suit.

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David Rabin MD, PhD is the chief innovation officer, co-founder and co-inventor at Apollo Neuroscience Inc. His work focuses on developing technology to change the way that we approach patient care more effectively.

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Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast. Today, I’m excited to have Dr. David Rabin on our show. He is a psychiatrist as well as a neuroscientist, and he is the co-founder of Apollo Neuroscience. Quite an exciting and emerging technology dealing with stress and resilience and helping you perform at your optimum state. So I’m going to let David explain a bit more about his background and how he got involved with what he’s doing. And I look forward to listening about what he has to say. Hey, David.

Dr. David Rabin: Hey, how are you? Thank you so much for having me.

Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: I’m good. I’m glad you could come on.

Dr. David Rabin: Yeah, me too. I think we have a lot of synergy in this space. Yeah. As you said a second ago, my background is in psychiatry and neuroscience. I’ve been focusing my research for just over 10 years now on chronic stress on the body and the effects. I originally started out looking at the effects on the cellular and molecular parts of the nervous system in dementia and aging blindness disorders and then realized that I was much more interested in working with people on the whole.

And so I transitioned into psychiatry where I focused mostly with people who have tumors and trauma disorders, like PTSD, and addiction disorders, and any other disorder that’s worsened by chronic stress, which often includes things like chronic pain and insomnia, depression, anxiety, and these kinds of things.

Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: So it seems like you spend quite a lot of time really getting the depth of all these kinds of debilitating chronic processes that people suffer from. So you’re quite an expert in that. So whilst you were doing that, did you always have an interest in technology as well?

Dr. David Rabin: Yeah, I think I always saw an opportunity for technology to change the way that we approach patient care more effectively. I think, you know, as we were talking about earlier, as physicians, we focus a lot on the biological processes of the body that have been studied for the last hundred years but we don’t spend a lot of time looking at the ways that we can more effectively understand those processes.

We kind of focus on this is what we know and this is how it is. But ultimately, what I think wearable technology has brought to the table is an opportunity to. And I realize that I think, you know when Fitbit they came out and I don’t know you’re familiar with BodyMedia, which is one of the first wearable companies. I think it was the first for tracking where metrics actually came out of Pittsburgh, where we’re located.

And we have a lot of heritage of wearable technology here to identify not just activity and health, but also emotional states. And so I always had an interest in that and just using that technology to sort to understand not only what’s going on from our patients’ mouths when we see them in the office, but more importantly, I think what’s going on in their day to day lives at...

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Dr. Benjamin Smarr combines his experience in research focused on developing personalized, predictive tools for future medicine and education to specialize in circadian rhythm, sleep and computational biology at a postdoctoral fellowship at UC Berkeley.

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Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves. Today, I have Dr. Benjamin Smarr, who is a scientific adviser for Owaves. Benjamin has a very rich academic career. He has been a Ph. D. student at the University of Washington in neurobiology and behavior.

He also studied at the University of California and now he’s a postdoctoral fellow at UC Berkeley specializing in circadian rhythm, sleep, computational biology, neuroscience, and I’m sure he’ll be telling you a lot more about his background. Benjamin has been working with our Owaves team. And he’s one of our experts and we’re very fortunate to have him on the podcast. This is going to be a deep dive into everything sleep and time.

So Benjamin describes himself as a time specialist from a physiological perspective. So I think he’ll be amazing knowledge for students listening to this and the general public. And I’m quite excited to learn a lot from Ben. So hi, Ben. How are you?

Dr. Benjamin Smarr: I’m doing really well. Thanks for having me on. That’s a very kind introduction.

Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: No, I think you deserve it. I mean, we’ve been very lucky to have you on Owaves and shaping where our app is going. And that’s very telling in all the kind of studies we’re trying to carry out. But you are actually the first sleep specialist.

I know you have a lot more than that, but we have not actually had a guest who knows much about sleep on the podcast as of yet. We’ve had quite a few people with nutrition, exercise, mental health so I would really like if you could add a lot to that angle, as I’m sure you will. So to start off with, can you explain to listeners how you got interested in lifestyle and your background? What kind of data and what you believe in for where healthcare is going?

Dr. Benjamin Smarr: Yeah, that’s a great question. I’d like to tell people that I’m a recovering biologist. So I had all of my schooling. In fact, since I was a little kid, I was really interested in watching bugs and figuring out about behavior and sort of what makes people tick eventually got me into neuroscience. And at some point I realized we do all of this research on cells or on model organisms and yet we really don’t know what the humans look like that we’re comparing to.

We really don’t know how behavior, hormones, neural activity, anything is actually changing across the day in a way that helps to make us healthier or not. We have this sort of snapshot view, right, where you say the knee bone is connected to the shinbone. So that how your cholesterol should be within some given human range or temperature or anything else. And, you know, so somebody comes into the clinic and you go, yeah, your heart rate is within the human range of heart rates.

That’s got to be good, right? Your cholesterol is within the human range of cholesterol values. That’s got to be good. And what we’re missing,  what I got into in grad school,

Benjamin Smarr, PhD, combines his experience in public-private research excellence focused on developing personalized, predictive tools for future medicine and education is currently a postdoctoral fellow at UC Berkeley.

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Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves. Today, I have Dr. Benjamin Smarr, who is a scientific adviser for Owaves. Benjamin has a very rich academic career. He has been a Ph. D. student at the University of Washington in neurobiology and behavior. He also studied at the University of California and now he’s a postdoctoral fellow at UC Berkeley specializing in circadian rhythm, sleep, computational biology, neuroscience, and I’m sure he’ll be telling you a lot more about his background. Benjamin has been working with our Owaves team. And he’s one of our experts and we’re very fortunate to have him on the podcast. This is going to be a deep dive into everything sleep and time. So Benjamin describes himself as a time specialist from a physiological perspective. So I think he’ll be amazing knowledge for students listening to this and the general public. And I’m quite excited to learn a lot from Ben. So hi, Ben. How are you?

Benjamin Smarr: I’m doing really well. Thanks for having me on. That’s a very kind introduction.

Dr. Sohaib Imitaz: No, I think you deserve it. I mean, we’ve been very lucky to have you on Owaves and shaping where our app is going. And that’s very telling in all the kind of studies we’re trying to carry out. But you are actually the first sleep specialist. I know you have a lot more than that, but we have not actually had a guest who knows much about sleep on the podcast as of yet. We’ve had quite a few people with nutrition, exercise, mental health so I would really like if you could add a lot to that angle, as I’m sure you will. So to start off with, can you explain to listeners how you got interested in lifestyle and your background? What kind of data and what you believe in for where healthcare is going?

Benjamin Smarr: Yeah, that’s a great question. I’d like to tell people that I’m a recovering biologist. So I had all of my schooling. In fact, since I was a little kid, I was really interested in watching bugs and figuring out about behavior and sort of what makes people tick eventually got me into neuroscience. And at some point I realized we do all of this research on cells or on model organisms and yet we really don’t know what the humans look like that we’re comparing to. We really don’t know how behavior, hormones, neural activity, anything is actually changing across the day in a way that helps to make us healthier or not. We have this sort of snapshot view, right, where you say the knee bone is connected to the shinbone. So that how your cholesterol should be within some given human range or temperature or anything else. And, you know, so somebody comes into the clinic and you go, yeah, your heart rate is within the human range of heart rates. That’s got to be good, right? Your cholesterol is within the human range of cholesterol values. That’s got to be good. And what we’re missing,  what I got into in grad school, is thinking about how could we get ahead of behavior by taking advantage of change that is not random. Change that is predictable. And so things like circadian rhythms, sleep cycles, ovulatory rhythms for women, seasonal change. There are all of these timescales where change is not random. And so if you start to say, well, what is changing biologically on those timescales? You start to realize the answer is absolutely everything. And so that just converted me. And I said, OK, this is really exciting. You know, knowing what time of the day my research subjects think it is or what time of day my body thinks it is,

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With a PhD in cognitive psychology and being a researcher at the Florida Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, Dr. Peter Pirolli is at the cutting edge of the Bay Area human-machine interface arena. His current mission is to deliver AI based coaching for sustained behavior change. A great listen for the Neuralink and Elon Musk fans.

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Dr. Haroon Kazem: Hey, guys, thanks for joining us on another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves. If you haven’t already, please remember to download the Free Owaves app on the Apple App Store. It’s the number one wellness app on the App Store. It’s fun. It’s easy to use and it will allow you to effectively plan your day. It works great as a visual planner. And please remember to tell your friends and family. Also if you’re enjoying the show, please do us a huge, huge favor and leave us a five star rating on your podcast app. As always, thanks for listening and hope you enjoy the show.

Dr. Sohaib Imitiaz: Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves today. I’ve got a very intriguing guest, Peter Pirolli, who is just phenomenal in terms of what he’s achieved and done. And so, he is an expert in computational psychology and artificial intelligence research. He’s also working in human computer interaction and human and machine cognition at the Florida Institute.

He’s based in San Francisco. He studied at top universities such as the Carnegie Mellon University, where he did a PHD in cognitive psychology, as well as being an associate professor at UC Berkeley. And so there’s a whole wide range of topics of where psychology, cognition, and artificial intelligence meet, and Peter can tell us a little bit more about his background and what he’s doing currently. So, hey, Peter, thanks for coming on the podcast.

Dr. Peter Pirolli: Well, thank you for having me.

Dr. Sohaib Imitiaz: It’s a pleasure. So it’d be great if you could tell the listeners about a, what you’re up to now. Especially with, you know, working at the human and machine cognition, the Florida Institute. Because that sounds very exciting. And I think a lot of people would not any idea what’s happening and how you’ll pushing the boundaries. And then also going to a bit about your background. It will interested you in kind of behavior science as well as combining that with technology.

Dr. Peter Pirolli: Sure. So I am kind of a recent addition to the Florida Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, although I’ve known the folks there, in particular the director, Ken Ford, for a couple of decades now. And it’s a very interesting place, partly because it does such a variety of research. It started off being fairly focused in on studies of human cognition, human centered computation and understanding artificial intelligence.

And now it’s kind of broadened out to a number of other areas, including human health, resilience of performance and cyber security, looking at trying to understand autonomy and autonomous systems. And in a very big effort in robotics. So they have various successful robotics team.

That’s done very well in some of the DARPA robotics challenges.

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Dr. Cameron Sepah is a Harvard and UCLA-trained psychologist and UCSF Medical School psychiatry professor. He is also a team member and clinical lead of B2B2C digital therapeutics company Omada Health. Dr Cameron also is also a psychologist to CEOs and VCs.

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Dr. Haroon Kazem: Hey, guys. Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves. If you haven’t already, please remember to download the Free Owaves app on the Apple App Store. It’s the number one wellness app on the App Store. It’s fun. It’s easy to use, and it will allow you to effectively plan your day. It works great as a visual planner. And please remember to tell your friends and family. Also, if you’re enjoying the show, please do us a huge, huge favor and leave us a five star rating on your podcast app. As always, thanks for listening and hope you enjoy the show.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast for Owaves. Today, I’m lucky to be joined by Dr. Cameron Sepah. Did I say that right?

Dr. Cameron Sepah: That’s right.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Yeah, I think I’m glad I got pronunciation right. Who is tuning in from California, San Francisco, and I’m very humbled to have him on our podcast because he’s a very busy individual, who has a very promising career. He has been an academic and still is. He’s an executive psychologist to high performers and executives. He is also a venture capitalist. And he has many other roles, which I’m sure he can explain when he goes into his background. So thanks for coming on our podcast, Dr. Cameron.

Dr. Cameron Sepah: My pleasure. It’s great to join you.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Great. So could you tell the listeners about what you do and what your background is and what you’re doing at the moment?

Dr. Cameron Sepah: Sure thing. So, you know, I, like you trained as a health care professional. So, I’m trained as a licensed clinical psychologist and I still practice as a psychologist. I think the only difference is now my clientele are mostly executives. So, I work primarily with CEOs and BCs. That’s because that’s who I’m around here in Silicon Valley. It’s sort of my community of folks. And it’s obviously a higher functioning group of folks. I continue to teach as a clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF Medical School.

So, I train the psychiatry residents there and really enjoyed doing that in terms of teaching and giving back. And then I spend the majority of my time as an entrepreneur and investor. So I moved out here to Silicon Valley to start health tech companies. And very fortunate to learn a lot along the way. I helped start a lot of health, which is a large about 30 or 50 person company now. I started at consumer nutrition company in Iquitos space that was acquired. And then now I primarily focus on the investing side. So I invest in consumer oriented companies. A lot of stuff in health tech and that keeps you more than busy.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: I mean, I’m very intrigued by that because I, myself, am very interested in how wellness meets technology. And I definitely think that’s the future of health because it’s keepin...

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Dr. Rupy Aujla is a medical doctor specializing in general practice. He also does a bit of emergency medicine and is a firm believer in the power of food and lifestyle change as medicine. He is founder of Doctor’s Kitchen and the best-selling author of Eat to Beat Illness.

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Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast with Owaves. Today, I’m delighted to have my fellow colleague and clinical entrepreneu, Dr. Rupy, who’s better known as the Doctors Kitchen He’s done some phenomenal stuff in the space of lifestyle and he continues to be the pioneer in this field with a massive social media presence. That’s how I first came across him. So, meeting him in person was a bit of one of those celebrity type moments, and I was honestly quite delighted to see him and he is actually generally as friendly and happy as well in person as he appears in social media. So, it’s generally, very genuine. So, he has written quite a few books now with his latest one being Eat to Beat Illness, which will be launching in the states quite soon as he can tell you more about that and his background. So, hi Rupy. Thanks for coming on.

Dr. Rupy Aujla: Cool, man. Thanks for that lovely introduction.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Of course. You’re the people that gave me hope as a young trainee kind of diversifying through some different things. So, could you tell the listeners about your journey and what you’re doing?

Dr. Rupy Aujla: Yeah. Sure, man. So, I’ll keep said the short version. So, basically, I’m a general practitioner working in emergency medicine as well NHS. I’m a firm believer in what you choose to spend your plates being one of the most important health interventions that anyone can make. This journey really started for me when I got ill myself. I started suffering from something called atrial fibrillation, which is where your heart beats exceptionally fast and, in my case, irregularly as well. I would go through whole bunch of different investigations and multiple appointments with medics, cardio-electrophysiologist, some cardiologists, etc, interventionists because I’d be having some episodes 2-3 times per week, anywhere 20 beats per minute. And it was my mom who suggested that I should look at my lifestyle and trying to improve things. And as conventionally trained medic, I wasn’t thinking about lifestyle as a potential option but really to appease her I thought- okay, well I’ll stay on the medications.

I won’t have an ablation, which is where they put a wire into the heart and then burn essentially an aerial ring fence of the misfiring cells. So, I looked at my diet, my sort of stress levels, my sleep, activity, and to my sort of amazement I was able to come off my medications and I haven’t had an episode since. It must be about 7 or 8 years now. So that was my sort introduction into lifestyle medicine and I went into general practice and start having more open honest conversations with my patients, started researching around the subject matter, and I found this huge wealth of information that was pretty groundbreaking for me at the time.

And I realized, you know, nutrition is definitely the way to go forward. I started a little YouTube channel back in 2015 really, just trying to teach people about the benefits o...

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Dr. Burrowes has 14 years of clinical mental health and marriage/family experience and a PhD in Marriage, Couples and Family Counseling. She was licensed in Florida as a mental health counselor and marriage and family therapist until April 2019.

She decided to officially leave health care and continue providing value through coaching for the mutual benefit of her clients and herself. In this episode we dive into what makes healthy relationships and how coaching can help with mental health.

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Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast by Owaves. Today, we’re very fortunate to be joined by Dr. Taylor Burrows, who is joining us from Miami. So, hey, Dr. Burrows, how you doing?

Dr. Taylor Burrows: I’m doing well, thanks. Thanks for having me.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: No, I’m so glad you could come on. It’s so refreshing to have someone on who’s not only a mental health advocate, but such an expert as a coach. Could you go into your background for the listeners before we dive in?

Dr. Taylor Burrows: Sure. Well, I was trained as a mental health professional. I have a Ph.D. in Marriage Couples and Family Counseling. My Masters was in General Counseling. And I had two licenses in my clinical practice of 14 years. One was in mental health and one was in marriage couples and family therapy. But basically now I’ve transitioned out of the healthcare system, the formal health care system to do online coaching work using that background. So I find that to me it’s a better fit because it’s more action oriented and it puts the accountability on the client vs. almost like that perpetual enabling that kind of happens in a traditional practice I found. So this is definitely more involved for the clients to be more solution focused and action oriented.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Wow, so I mean, you’ve really thought things through and come up with a strategy that seems to really work with your clients. I’m following you on Twitter. I know you’re very popular with a lot of people and it seems you’ve been able to form those kind of human bonds with a lo...

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Bob is a New York City-based technology entrepreneur, biohacker, and self-quantification geek focused on the intersection of data-driven citizen science, health and wellness, human performance, longevity, and personal optimization.

“Hack, track, analyze, optimize, rinse, repeat,” comes from his background in software development, where concepts such as iterative software development and “lean startup” methodology have emerged. He seeks to not only continuously gain new insights about himself, but also challenge and reshape previously held beliefs.

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Dr. Haroon Kazem: Today’s episode of the Body Clock Podcast is brought to you by Dermala. Dermala is a personalized acne treatment kit that fights the cause of acne, not just the symptoms. Acne happens when bad bacteria overpower your good bacteria. Dermala uses the power of your microbiome to strengthen the good bacteria to fight the acne causing bad bacteria on and in your body. Each kit contains four products formulated to individual needs – an AMP/PM cleanser, AM/PM treatment pads, daily pre and probiotic mix and targeted pimple patches for stubborn pimples. The products are made with clean natural ingredients and a special blend of pre, pro and post bionics that fight acne from the inside out and outside in. The kit is complemented by Dermala acne tracker. By tracking the treatment progress with the app, the product formulation is continually optimized based on the treatment results. Take the skin quiz on Dermala.com. Get your personalized kit delivered to your door and start fighting your hashtag FOBO or your fear of breaking out. That’s Dermala.com d e r m a l a dot com. Thanks and hope you enjoy the show.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast. Today we have a special guest from New York, Bob Troyer, who is at the pinnacle of the self quantification movement and is also a biohacker. He’s got a background in software development and has worked as a tech entrepreneur in the digital innovation space for about two decades. He’s quite an expert on kind of running self experimentation and collecting data. He’s given a lot of important talks at various summits, including the Superhuman Summit as well as the Biohacker Summit. Someone I’ve been following recently and I find quite an enigmatic personality to follow and learn from. So I think this is gonna be a great podcast. So, hey, Bob.

Bob Troia: Hey, thanks for having me on.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: No, great that you could make it. So to start off with, obviously, you know, our podcast, Body Clock Podcast centered on circadian rhythm biology and Owaves is the app we’re developing. And it’s already available on the App Store that we continue to develop in order to help people optimize their circadian rhythms and their lifestyle to achieve optimal health. So before we start, could you go into a bit about your background?

Bob Troia: Sure. I mean, you touched on it pretty well. I’m a long time technology entrepreneur. I started my career in the early days of the web as a software developer, but kind of branched out into building some companies over the years that were actually more in the digital marketing side of things, but still heavy tech focus.

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Dr. Anushka Patchava is a Cambridge medical graduate who is currently working at Aetna. Outside of work, her interests are embedded in the three C’s: CrossFit (power-lifting), charity (she is a dedicated volunteer, founder and fund-raiser) and creations (be it artwork or social enterprise apps). She has advised a variety of health related startups on their journey to commercialization and is most invigorated by this sort of work.

In 2003, aged 18, she was the second youngest person to complete the London Marathon — making it around the course in under 5 hours despite fracturing her knee joint at 8 miles! She continues to be active all year round, summiting mountains (most recently SE Asia’s tallest; Mt Kinabalu) and at national powerlifting competitions amongst other things! She is a leader in the field of population health and is exploring blockchain and AI solutions for healthcare.

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Dr. Haroom Kazem: Today’s episode of the Body Clock podcast is brought to you by Dermala. Dermala is a personalized acting treatment kit that fights the cause of acne, not just the symptoms. Acne happens when bad bacteria overpower your good bacteria. Dermala uses the power of your microbiome to strengthen the good bacteria to fight the acne causing bad bacteria on and in your body. Each kit contains four products formulated to individual needs – an AM/PM cleanser, AM/PM treatment pads, daily pre and probiotic mix and targeted pimple patches for stubborn pimples. The products are made with clean natural ingredients and a special blend of pre, pro and post bionics that fight acne from inside out and outside in. The kit is complemented by Dermala Acne Tracker by tracking the treatment progress with the app. The product formulation is continually optimized based on the treatment results. Take the skin quiz on Dermala.com. Get your personalized kit delivered to your door and start fighting your hashtag FOBO or your fear of breaking out. That’s Dermala.com. D e r m a l a dot com. Thanks and hope you enjoy the show.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Body Clock podcast. Today, we’re fortunate to have Dr. Anushka Patchava, who is currently working in population health, digital health, blockchain and artificial intelligence. She’s got quite a stellar career working in various strategy consulting roles. She was also training to be a radiologist and she studied at some of the top institutions, including Harvard and Cambridge. So she’s an avid fitness enthusiast and I’m really fortunate that she’s on our podcast. And we’ve also got Royan, CEO of Owaves joining us for this podcast as well. So, hey, guys.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: So nice to have you on. So how are you doing?

Dr. Anushka Patchava: Not too bad. It’s a bit of rainy England, rainy February evening. Very well, thank you. How are you?

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: Good to hear. I’m good as well. Well, Royan is probably enjoying the sun.

Dr. Royan Kamyar: Here from San Diego. It’s about 70 degrees Fahrenheit and sunny. So to default to stop repeating it and rubbing it in two different climates and time zones.

Dr. Sohaib Imtiaz: So Anushka, just to start. So could you take us through your daily routine and your kind ...