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This week on “Crina and Kirsten Get to Work”, we dig into the 2025 *Women in the Workplace* report—the largest study of women in corporate America, spanning 280+ companies and over 1 million employees—and ask a hard question: what happens when women stop wanting the next rung?
SHOW NOTES
For over a decade, this report has tracked slow, incremental progress. Women now make up nearly 30% of the C-suite, up from 17%. But the underlying systems? Largely unchanged.
And now, a new shift: women’s ambition is declining.
What We’re Seeing (Again)
Some findings won’t surprise you—but they should still frustrate you:
What’s New (and Concerning)
This year’s report introduces a real shift:
So… What Gives?
If the system hasn’t meaningfully changed—and in some cases is backsliding—opting out starts to look less like a personal choice and more like a rational response.
What Needs to Happen
For companies and managers:
For individual women:
The Bottom Line
The issue isn’t that women lack ambition—it’s that the cost of ambition remains too high.
By Crina Hoyer and Kirsten Barron5
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This week on “Crina and Kirsten Get to Work”, we dig into the 2025 *Women in the Workplace* report—the largest study of women in corporate America, spanning 280+ companies and over 1 million employees—and ask a hard question: what happens when women stop wanting the next rung?
SHOW NOTES
For over a decade, this report has tracked slow, incremental progress. Women now make up nearly 30% of the C-suite, up from 17%. But the underlying systems? Largely unchanged.
And now, a new shift: women’s ambition is declining.
What We’re Seeing (Again)
Some findings won’t surprise you—but they should still frustrate you:
What’s New (and Concerning)
This year’s report introduces a real shift:
So… What Gives?
If the system hasn’t meaningfully changed—and in some cases is backsliding—opting out starts to look less like a personal choice and more like a rational response.
What Needs to Happen
For companies and managers:
For individual women:
The Bottom Line
The issue isn’t that women lack ambition—it’s that the cost of ambition remains too high.

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