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Episode 339 of The Business Development Podcast breaks down The Ten Follow Up Rule, Kelly Kennedy’s personal standard for building real pipeline through consistent, disciplined business development. Kelly shares why most sales and BD professionals stop far too early, how fear of rejection and lack of structure kill opportunities, and why every qualified prospect deserves at least ten follow-ups before being disqualified.
Through real stories, including the time it took thirty follow-ups to book a major mining meeting, Kelly shows that success in business development is rarely about talent alone. It comes from weekly execution, CRM discipline, clear next steps, performance tracking, and the willingness to keep showing up long after most people quit.
Key Takeaways:
Sponsor Mentions
A huge thank you to Colin Harms and Jamie Crozier for their steadfast support of The Business Development Podcast.
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc., and Atlas Elite Lifts.
Hypervac Technologies
North America’s leader in vacuum truck manufacturing, building high-performance hydrovac and industrial vacuum trucks for the toughest field conditions.
www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab
The custom fabrication division of Hypervac, delivering engineered solutions and specialized builds for demanding industrial applications.
www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc.
A trusted provider of hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing, supporting mining, forestry, construction, and industrial operations with reliable, high-quality service.
www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts
A premium supplier of automotive lift systems focused on performance, safety, and long-term reliability for shops and garages.
www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club Community
If you are serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with high-level thinkers, The Catalyst Club is where you need to be.
Join us here: www.kellykennedyofficial.com/thecatalystclub
Statistics referenced in this episode were sourced from the following article by MarketsandMarkets:
“Why Sales Reps Stop Following Up and How to Fix It”
https://www.marketsandmarkets.com/AI-sales/why-sales-reps-stop-following-up-how-to-fix-it
Mentioned in this episode:
Hypervac - Revolution Vacuums
In Episode 338 of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly Kennedy sits down with Charlotte Lloyd to break down one of the biggest misconceptions in modern business development: that content alone will bring you clients. With over 20 years in B2B sales and millions in closed revenue, Charlotte shares how LinkedIn is often misunderstood as a content platform when in reality, it’s a conversation platform. She explains why most entrepreneurs struggle to convert attention into revenue, and how the real opportunity lies in starting meaningful, intentional conversations with the people already engaging with your brand.
This episode dives deep into practical client acquisition strategies, including how to structure your LinkedIn profile for conversion, how to identify warm prospects, and how to use direct messaging without sounding salesy. Charlotte introduces her SPICE framework for building authentic, high-converting conversations and emphasizes the importance of prioritizing sales activity over perfectionism. If you’ve been posting consistently but not seeing results, this conversation will shift your perspective and give you a clear path to turning visibility into real business growth.
Connect with Charlotte Lloyd on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlottelloydsales/
If you’re ready to take action on what you heard in this episode, check out the Client Acquisition Club:
https://www.thecharlottelloyd.com/clientacquisitionclub
Key Takeaways:
🎸 Sponsor Shoutouts: Thank you Colin Harms and Jamie Crozier for your steadfast support of The Business Development Podcast! 🫶
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc, and Atlas Elite Autolifts Inc. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies: North America’s leader in vacuum truck manufacturing.
www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab: The custom fabrication division of Hypervac.
www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc: Hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing for mining, forestry, and construction.
www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Autolifts Inc.: Premium automotive lift systems for shops and garages.
www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club Community:
www.kellykennedyofficial.com/thecatalystclub
Mentioned in this episode:
Hypervac - Revolution Vacuums
Episode 337 of The Business Development Podcast features a powerful and timely conversation with Brianna Solberg of the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, diving deep into what is now being called Canada’s “Entrepreneurial Drought.” Backed by real data, the episode uncovers a troubling reality: more businesses are closing than opening in Canada for six consecutive quarters, marking the worst startup activity outside of the pandemic. Together, Kelly and Brianna break down the mounting pressures facing small and medium-sized businesses, including rising costs, labor shortages, declining consumer demand, and a growing sense that entrepreneurship in Canada is becoming increasingly unsustainable.
But this conversation goes far beyond economics. Kelly and Brianna explore the deeper, long-term implications of this trend, highlighting how the decline of small business threatens the very fabric of Canadian communities. From lost local jobs and reduced economic circulation to the erosion of vibrant main streets and community identity, the impact is far-reaching. The episode also outlines potential solutions, including reducing the cost of doing business, cutting regulatory red tape, and addressing labor market challenges, while calling for greater awareness, advocacy, and action from both business owners and policymakers.
Key Takeaways:
Connect with Brianna on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianna-solberg/
Join the Canadian Federation of Independent BusinessIf you are a business owner in Canada, your voice matters now more than ever.
The CFIB represents over 100,000 small and medium-sized businesses across the country, advocating for better policy, lower costs, and a stronger future for entrepreneurs.
Join here:
https://www.cfib-fcei.ca/en/membership-benefits
Sponsor Mentions🎸 Sponsor Shoutouts: Thank you Colin Harms and Jamie Crozier for your steadfast support of The Business Development Podcast! 🫶
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
🔹 Hypervac Technologies: North America’s leader in vacuum truck manufacturing, building high performance hydrovac and industrial vacuum trucks designed for the toughest field conditions.
www.hypervac.com
🔹 Hyperfab: The custom fabrication division of Hypervac, delivering engineered solutions and specialized builds tailored to demanding industrial applications.
www.hyperfab.ca
🔹 Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc: A trusted provider of hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction with reliable, high quality service.
www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
🔹 Atlas Elite Lifts: A premium supplier of automotive lift systems, focused on performance, safety, and long term reliability for shops and garages.
www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club CommunityIf you are serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with high level thinkers, The Catalyst Club is where you need to be.
Join us here:
www.kellykennedyofficial.com/thecatalystclub
Mentioned in this episode:
Hypervac - Revolution Vacuums
In episode 336 of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly sits down with Andrew Z. Brown, a leading authority in B2B referral marketing, strategic alliances, and sales acceleration, to unpack a powerful truth most businesses overlook. Your biggest deals are not coming from cold outreach, ads, or chasing leads. They are coming from referrals. Andrew explains how a well timed and well informed referral can move a prospect from the top of the funnel to the bottom, often eliminating competitors entirely from the conversation.
Together, they break down why most companies treat referrals like luck instead of building a system around them, and how that mindset is costing them their most valuable opportunities. From the dangers of the “hope and dream” approach to the structure of a managed referral program, this episode shows how to turn referrals into a predictable, intentional, and scalable growth strategy that drives real results.
Key Takeaways:
Connect with Andrew Z. Brown:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewzbrown/
Email: [email protected]
Andrew has also generously offered 10 free copies of his book, Get Referred, to listeners of The Business Development Podcast. Just DM Kelly Kennedy on LinkedIn and he will pass your name and address along to Andrew.
Free resource:
Andrew also offered access to his Get Referral Ready webinar, designed to help you understand whether your business is ready to build a managed referral program.
Watch it here: https://www.getreferred.biz/get-referral-ready-registration
Get the book:
If this episode opened your eyes to the power of referrals, Andrew’s book Get Referred is the next step. It breaks down how to turn referrals from random opportunities into a structured, intentional, and predictable business development system.
Get the book here: https://www.getreferred.biz/get-referred-the-book
🎸 Sponsor Shoutouts: Thank You Colin Harms & Jamie Crozier for your steadfast support of The Business Development Podcast! 🫶
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
🔹 Hypervac Technologies: North America’s leader in vacuum truck manufacturing, building high performance hydrovac and industrial vacuum trucks designed for the toughest field conditions. www.hypervac.com
🔹 Hyperfab: The custom fabrication division of Hypervac, delivering engineered solutions and specialized builds tailored to demanding industrial applications. www.hyperfab.ca
🔹 Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc: A trusted provider of hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction with reliable, high quality service. www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
🔹 Atlas Elite Lifts: A premium supplier of automotive lift systems, focused on performance, safety, and long term reliability for shops and garages. www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club Community
If you are serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with high level thinkers, The Catalyst Club is where you need to be.
Join us here: www.kellykennedyofficial.com/thecatalystclub
Mentioned in this episode:
Hypervac - Revolution Vacuums
Episode 335 of The Business Development Podcast features Rochelle Carrington, a former seven-figure sales leader who now helps high performers break through the invisible barriers holding them back. In this conversation, Rochelle introduces the concept of “performance drag,” the accumulated emotional pressure in the nervous system that quietly slows decision-making, clouds clarity, and makes growth feel harder than it should. She challenges the traditional belief that success starts with mindset, revealing instead that emotions drive thought, not the other way around, and that many high performers are stuck not because they lack skill or strategy, but because their internal systems are working against them.
Together, we unpack why burnout is often misdiagnosed, why pushing harder eventually stops working, and how unresolved emotional patterns can limit execution, revenue, and momentum over time. Rochelle shares how her Emotional Blueprinting methodology helps entrepreneurs, CEOs, and leaders remove these hidden constraints without reliving past experiences, allowing them to regain clarity, energy, and performance quickly. This episode is a powerful reframe for anyone who feels like they’re doing everything right but not moving the way they should, and offers a new path forward rooted in alignment, awareness, and emotional mastery.
📩 Get in touch with Rochelle Carrington
Learn more about Emotional Blueprinting and her work here:
👉 https://www.emotionalbp.com/
🧠 Find out how much performance drag you’re carrying
Take the 1-minute scorecard:
👉 https://form.typeform.com/to/wCNWE0TN?typeform-source=www.emotionalbp.com
Key Takeaways:
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies is North America’s leader in vacuum truck manufacturing, engineering high performance hydrovac and industrial vacuum trucks built to handle the toughest demands in the field. If you work in construction, utilities, or industrial services, check them out at https://hypervac.com
Hyperfab, the fabrication division of Hypervac, delivers custom-built solutions engineered to handle the toughest demands in the field. Learn more at https://hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc has been a trusted name in hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing for decades, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction. Visit www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts delivers premium automotive lift solutions built for performance, safety, and reliability. Learn more at www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club: www.kellykennedyofficial.com
Mentioned in this episode:
Hypervac - Revolution Vacuums
Episode 334 with Ally Stone is a powerful journey through leadership, resilience, and what it truly means to put people first when everything is on the line. From building and scaling a multi-million-dollar restaurant group to leading through one of the most emotionally intense moments in business during COVID, Ally shares how real leadership shows up in action, not words. Her decision to feed hundreds of employees when the business shut down, instead of protecting margins, is a defining moment that reflects the culture she built and the values she stands for.
But this episode goes far deeper than business. Ally opens up about the life-altering moment in Tokyo that changed everything for her and her husband, leading to a complete shift in identity, priorities, and purpose. What follows is a raw and honest conversation about burnout, pressure, and rebuilding from the ground up, not just as a leader, but as a human being. This is an episode about becoming, about learning to lead yourself before you lead others, and about finding strength in the moments that break you.
Connect with Ally Stone
🌐 theinspiredleader.com
Key Takeaways:
🎸 Sponsor Shoutouts:
A huge thank you to Colin Harms and Jamie Crozier for your continued support of The Business Development Podcast. Your partnership helps make these conversations possible. 🫶
The Business Development Podcast is proudly sponsored by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc., and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies is North America’s leader in hydrovac excavation, delivering safe, non-destructive solutions for critical infrastructure and utility work.
🌐 www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab, the fabrication division of Hypervac, builds custom industrial solutions designed to perform in the toughest field conditions.
🌐 www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc. is a trusted leader in hydraulic cylinder repair, manufacturing, and system support for industries like mining, construction, and forestry.
🌐 www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts provides premium automotive lift solutions built for safety, performance, and long-term reliability.
🌐 www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club Community: www.kellykennedyofficial.com
If you are serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with people who are actually moving the needle, The Catalyst Club is where that continues. Weekly live sessions, real conversations, and a community built to help you grow.
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Some moments in life don’t make sense… but they stay with you forever. In Episode 333 of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly Kennedy sits down with Mike Schoenberger, CEO of Sunco Communications, for a conversation that goes far beyond business strategy. Together, they explore two deeply personal experiences they’ve never fully been able to explain, moments where they both knew something had happened before they were ever told. What unfolds is a powerful discussion on human connection, intuition, and the unseen forces that shape how we lead, think, and show up in the world.
This episode also dives into Mike’s journey building a $20M company rooted in people, culture, and authenticity, and why the leaders who win today are the ones willing to be vulnerable, present, and real. From leading with love versus fear to embracing the uncomfortable moments that drive growth, this is a conversation that challenges traditional thinking and reminds us that business is built on something much deeper than strategy alone.
Key Takeaways:
🔗 Connect with Mike Schoenberger
🌐 Website: https://mikeschoenberger.com/
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-schoenberger/
🎸 Sponsor Shoutouts
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies is North America’s leader in hydrovac excavation, delivering safe, non-destructive solutions for critical infrastructure projects. If you work in construction, utilities, or industrial services, check them out at www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab, the fabrication division of Hypervac, delivers custom-built solutions engineered to handle the toughest demands in the field. Learn more at www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics Inc has been a trusted name in hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing for over 55 years, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction across North America. Visit www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts delivers premium automotive lift solutions built for performance, safety, and reliability. If you are looking to upgrade your shop, check them out at www.atlaselitelifts.com
If you enjoy the show, please take a moment to support these incredible companies who make conversations like this possible. 🎸⭐
Join The Catalyst Club Community
If you are serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with high level thinkers, The Catalyst Club is where you need to be.
This is a private community for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and professionals committed to moving the needle every single week.
Join us here: 🌐 www.kellykennedyofficial.com
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Hyperfab Midroll
In Episode 332 of The Business Development Podcast, Jeroen Kraaijenbrink challenges one of the most common misconceptions in business today: that strategy belongs to leadership. With over 20 years of experience across academia and consulting, Jeroen breaks down why traditional, top-down strategy approaches consistently fail and what it really takes to build strategies that stick. His human-centered approach reframes strategy as a shared capability, not a static plan, and introduces the idea that everyone in an organization should be thinking and acting strategically.
This conversation dives into the shift from strategy as a one-time exercise to strategy as a daily practice. Jeroen explains how organizations can build strategic competence across teams, why adaptability is the most critical skill in today’s environment, and how leaders can move from control to empowerment to drive real execution. If you’ve ever built a plan that didn’t translate into results, this episode will challenge your thinking and give you a new way to approach strategy that actually works.
Key Takeaways:
🔗 Connect with Jeroen Kraaijenbrink
🌐 Strategy Inc: https://www.strategy.inc
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroenkraaijenbrink/
📘 The One-Hour Strategy
Jeroen’s latest book, The One-Hour Strategy, flips the script on traditional planning and shows how to make strategy a daily habit across your entire organization.
Get your copy here: https://www.jeroenkraaijenbrink.com/One-Hour-Strategy
🎸 Sponsor Shoutouts
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies is North America’s leader in hydrovac excavation, delivering safe, non-destructive solutions for critical infrastructure projects. If you work in construction, utilities, or industrial services, learn more at www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab, the fabrication division of Hypervac, delivers custom-built solutions engineered to handle the toughest demands in the field. Learn more at www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics has been a trusted name in hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing for over 55 years, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction across North America. Visit www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts delivers premium automotive lift solutions built for performance, safety, and reliability. If you are looking to upgrade your shop, check them out at www.atlaselitelifts.com
Mentioned in this episode:
Hyperfab Midroll
In this episode of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly Kennedy breaks down the real difference between people who build something meaningful and those who never get started. Drawing from the rapid launch of his new show and years of entrepreneurial experience, he challenges the idea of failure, reframing it as iteration, evolution, and intentional pivots. This is a powerful reminder that success is not about perfection, it is about momentum, action, and staying in the game long enough to win.
Kelly dives into the 10 most common pitfalls that stop new ideas in their tracks, from overthinking and imposter syndrome to slow execution and poor resource allocation. He emphasizes moving fast, taking imperfect action, and building relentless momentum while others hesitate. If you are sitting on an idea, questioning your next move, or struggling to gain traction, this episode will give you the clarity and push you need to take that first step and keep moving forward.
Key Takeaways:
The Business Development Podcast is proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies is North America’s leader in hydrovac excavation, delivering safe, non-destructive solutions for critical infrastructure projects. If you work in construction, utilities, or industrial services, check them out at www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab, the fabrication division of Hypervac, delivers custom-built solutions engineered to handle the toughest demands in the field. Learn more at www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics has been a trusted name in hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing for over 55 years, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction across North America. Visit www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts delivers premium automotive lift solutions built for performance, safety, and reliability. If you are looking to upgrade your shop, check them out at www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club
If you are serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with high-level thinkers, The Catalyst Club is where you need to be.
This is a private community for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and professionals committed to moving the needle every single week.
Join us here:
🌐 www.kellykennedyofficial.com/thecatalystclub
Mentioned in this episode:
Hyperfab Midroll
In Episode 330 of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly Kennedy sits down with Jordan Labelle, entrepreneur, strategist, and founder of Evergreen Growth Collective, to break down what actually drives long-term success in business. Jordan shares his journey through corporate, startup, and solopreneur life, revealing how each step wasn’t failure, but refinement. Together, they challenge the traditional “hustle harder” mindset and unpack why most founders burn out trying to do everything instead of focusing on what truly matters.
This conversation dives deep into redefining failure, building a business around your strengths, and the importance of staying in the game long enough to reach clarity. Jordan explains why growth doesn’t come from doing more, but from doing the right things with the right people, and how the breakthrough most entrepreneurs are searching for only comes through iteration, awareness, and persistence. If you’ve ever questioned your path, your business model, or whether it’s all going to work, this episode will bring clarity, reassurance, and a powerful reminder to keep going.
Follow Jordan Labelle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-labelle/
Check out Evergreen Growth Collective: https://www.evergreengrowthcollective.com/
Email Jordan Labelle: [email protected]
Key Takeaways:
The Business Development Podcast is Proudly supported by Hypervac Technologies, Hyperfab, Thunder Bay Hydraulics, and Atlas Elite Lifts. 🎸⭐
Hypervac Technologies is North America’s leader in hydrovac excavation, delivering safe, non-destructive solutions for critical infrastructure projects. If you’re in construction, utilities, or industrial services, check them out at www.hypervac.com
Hyperfab, the fabrication division of Hypervac, provides custom-built solutions designed to meet the toughest demands in the field. Learn more at www.hyperfab.ca
Thunder Bay Hydraulics has been a trusted name in hydraulic cylinder repair and manufacturing for over 55 years, supporting industries like mining, forestry, and construction across North America. Visit www.thunderbayhydraulics.com
Atlas Elite Lifts delivers premium automotive lift solutions built for performance, safety, and reliability. If you’re looking to upgrade your shop, check them out at www.atlaselitelifts.com
Join The Catalyst Club
If you’re serious about growth, leadership, and surrounding yourself with high-level thinkers, The Catalyst Club is where you need to be.
This is a private community for entrepreneurs, business leaders, and professionals who are committed to moving the needle every single week.
Join us here:
🌐 www.kellykennedyofficial.com/thecatalystclub
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Hyperfab Midroll
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