Vivian S. Lee, MD, PhD, MBA, joins host Dr. Bob Kaiser for a discussion about her new book, The Long Fix, out May 26. Lee, a magnetic resonance imaging radiologist, is president of Health Platforms at Verily Life Sciences, an Alphabet company. Discussion topics include moving the healthcare paradigm from paying for action, also known as fee-based care, to paying for results, also known as value-based care, and how the patient can play a role as co-producer.