Pamela Hayden gives fantastic insight into what it's like not just to referee but also refereeing in the Mens game. We look at the trials and tribulations involved and we discuss the current state of Carlow Football with Stephen Bambrick also joining us. Episode is with thanks to solarsigns.ie and also if you want to support us you can here for the price of a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/leftwingback