Ep. 35: Experience vs. Expertise: Why You Don’t Need Kids to Be a Parenting Coach with Kate Garzón 

Summary

In this episode, Kate Garzón, a parent educator and founder of Guided Parenting Support, shares her unique approach to parenting coaching, emphasizing the importance of understanding child development and building strong relationships. Liz and Sarah explore how her expertise helps parents and organizations create positive impacts that last.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Kate Garzón and Guided Parenting Support

06:00 Kate's background and journey into parenting coaching

12:01 The difference between experience and expertise

20:04 The journey of building a scalable parenting support business

29:59 How understanding child development improves parenting

39:58 Proactive strategies for behavior management

Key Topics

-The difference between experience and expertise in parenting support

-How child development stages inform parenting strategies

-The importance of relationship building and proactive skills

-Scaling parenting support from one-on-one to organizational level

-The impact of parental support on workplace productivity

-Kate's journey from teacher to parent coach during COVID

-The value of understanding neurodivergent children

-How to communicate the value of parenting support to organizations

-The long-term benefits of proactive parenting education

-Kate's approach to coaching and parent education

Sound Bites

"Words matter in parenting and support"

"Relationship building and skill development are the core"

"Children are capable of more than we often realize"

Guest Name

Kate Garzón 

Guided Parenting Support - GPS® : www.guidedparentingsupport.com 

Instagram: @guidedparentingsupport;

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-garz%C3%B3n-m-ed-00184215b/,

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/guidedparentingsupport 

Keywords

parenting, child development, coaching, education, work-life balance, organizational impact, parenting strategies, neurodivergent children, professional development, family support

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Summary

In Episode 34 of The CEO Sisters Road Trip, Sarah and Liz dive into why shifting your behavioral patterns and systems matters far more than pushing through burnout or trying to solve every business challenge by working harder. Drawing insights from top business and habit books—including The Gap and the Gain, Atomic Habits, The Coaching Habit, and Profit First—they discuss how to escape constant self-criticism, define your own baseline of success, and build sustainable momentum.

Key topics

• Measuring Backward: Overcoming "the gap" between your current standing and an idealized goal by reflecting on past progress.
• System Design vs. Goals: Establishing small daily habits and clear structures to prevent burnout and power daily execution.
• Identity and Language: Shifting self-talk from "trying to quit/do something" to solid "I am" identity statements.
• Overcoming Overwhelm: Recognizing that feeling "stuck" is usually just overwhelm, and resolving it by identifying the single priority for the day.
• The 4 Buckets of Business Growth: Diagnosing bottlenecks across People, Process, Pricing, and Positioning.

Action items & Take aways

• Always Measure Backward (AMB): Build confidence by actively tracking how far you have come rather than measuring against an ever-shifting ideal.
• Design Systems, Not Just Goals: Break down large 90-day targets into manageable, daily micro-actions.
• Monotask over Multitask: Ask yourself each morning: "What is the ONE thing I can complete today to move my business forward?"
• Adopt an "I Am" Identity: Speak about your role and business with ownership (e.g., "I am a business owner" rather than "I am trying to run a business").

Chapters

• 00:16 – Introduction to the CEO Sisters Road Trip
• 00:59 – The Importance of Reading and Learning
• 04:32 – Mindset vs. Grindset: The Power of Measurement
• 07:22 – The Gap and the Gain: Measuring Progress
• 13:17 – Identity and Behavior in Business
• 16:53 – Balancing Creativity and Business
• 19:26 – Shifting Behavioral Patterns for Success
• 22:36 – Overcoming Overwhelm and Prioritization
• 26:50 – The Power of Accountability in Business
• 28:50 – Redefining Identity for Growth
• 31:08 – Understanding the Process Behind Stuckness

Resources

• The Gap and the Gain by Dan Sullivan with Dr. Benjamin Hardy
• The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier
• Atomic Habits by James Clear
• Profit First by Mike Michalowicz

Links

• Your Business Matters
• Sarah Jane Pottery

Keywords

Mindset, Grindset, Business Coaching, Entrepreneurship, Atomic Habits, The Gap and the Gain, Profit First, Overwhelm, Prioritization, Systems, Business Growth

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EP. 33 - Graduation Overwhelm, Otter Dreams & Beating Burnout

Summary

In this candid episode, sisters Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman get real about the "invisible workload" female entrepreneurs face during major life transitions. From surviving high school graduation season and college prep, to navigating weird dream anxiety (including giant otter attacks!), Liz and Sarah discuss the emotional, mental, and physical weight of wearing multiple hats.

They unpack the stark reality of female founder burnout—where 65% of women report active burnout compared to 37% of men—and share actionable strategies on how to give yourself grace, ditch people-pleasing, and protect your energy. Learn how implementing the "One Big Thing" method can transform your productivity without sacrificing your sanity.

Key Topics Covered

• Anxiety & Dream Logic: Why stress shows up in bizarre ways (and what Liz’s giant otter dream says about burnout).
• The Invisible Workload: Why 83% of female entrepreneurs report high stress and how family transitions bleed into business bandwidth.
• Making Hard Business Decisions: Sarah shares the relief and power behind stepping back from a major show commitment to prioritize her sanity and family.
• Overcoming People-Pleasing: Breaking free from the fear of disappointing others when setting business boundaries.
• The "One Big Thing" Strategy: A game-changing daily process used to overcome multitasking debt and move your business forward.
• The Power of External Accountability: Hacking your own brain by using peers and community to achieve your goals.

Chapters

• 00:16 – Welcome to CEO Sisters Road Trip
• 01:39 – Weekend Recording & Liz’s Crazy Otter Dream
• 06:40 – Graduation Overwhelm: The Toll of Major Milestones
• 09:15 – Drowning in the "Invisible Workload" & Female Founder Burnout Statistics
• 12:48 – Balancing Family Demands with Growing a Business (Sarah's Story)
• 15:47 – Giving Yourself Grace & Decoupling Guilt from Difficult Decisions
• 20:58 – Overcoming People-Pleasing in Business
• 24:55 – Multitasking Debt: What the Research Says About Middle-Aged Founders
• 28:16 – How to Implement the "One Big Thing" Framework Daily
• 33:39 – Why External Accountability Keeps Us Consistent

Mentioned Resources

•  Ink Volt Paper Dashboard / Digital Dashboard
• The Gap and The Gain (Dan Sullivan & Dr. Benjamin Hardy)

Links

• Your Business Matters
• Sarah Jane Pottery
• Entrepreneur Magazine: "Why Some Female Entrepreneurs Flourish While Others Burn Out"
• Inc. Magazine: "It's Not the Workload That's Burning Women Founders Out. It's the Pressure"

Keywords

Female Founder Burnout, Invisible Workload, Women Entrepreneurs, CEO Sisters Road Trip, Business Strategy, Overcoming Multitasking Debt, Entrepreneur Work-Life Balance, Small Business Priorities

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Summary

Are you running toward your big business goals, or just running away from burnt-out corporate routines? In this episode of CEO Sisters Road Trip, Sarah and Liz chat with Abby Gates, founder of SproutWise and an HR leader with over 20 years of experience navigating four successful startup exits.

Abby shares her fascinating journey—from taking a solo backpacking trip through Southeast Asia in her late 20s to quitting a high-level executive corporate job during a season of caregiving to launch her own fractional HR firm. Together, they explore why HR isn’t just a "safety net" or "breakroom fluff," but the living foundation of decision-making, company culture, and sustainable scaling. If you’ve ever felt itchy in your career, struggled with taking big leaps, or wondered how to protect your culture before growth breaks your team, this episode is for you!

Key Topics

• The Solo Backpacking Muscle: How a solo trip through Thailand and Bali built self-reliance and transformed Abby’s relationship with risk.
• Amplify vs. Create: Recognizing when you are amplifying someone else’s work versus building something meaningful of your own.
• Caregiving & Career Pivots: Navigating family health crises while negotiating boundaries in corporate leadership.
• HR as a Growth Engine: Why culture isn’t just snacks and foosball tables, but a non-negotiable decision-making matrix.
• The Physical Toll of Misalignment: Listening to your body when stress responses demand a career change.

Chapters & Timestamps

• 00:00 – Episode Intro & Catching Up with Sarah & Liz
• 04:01 – Meet Abby Gates of SproutWise
• 06:53 – Solo Backpacking, Southeast Asia, and Building the "Risk Muscle"
• 20:21 – Overcoming Dread: Advice for Taking the Big Leap
• 28:03 – The Turning Point: Caregiving, Corporate Burnout, & Negotiating an Exit
• 38:30 – Amplifying Work vs. Creating Work
• 46:10 – The Physical Cost of Staying Too Long: Lessons in Self-Care
• 46:30 – What Fractional HR Really Does for Growing Startups
• 51:30 – Where to Connect with Abby & Wrap Up

Resources & Guest Links

• Website: http://www.sproutwise.com/
• Connect with Abby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbygates6/
• Direct Email: [email protected]

Keywords

Startup HR, Fractional HR, Scaling a Business, Risk Tolerance, Company Culture, Caregiving and Entrepreneurship, Solo Travel, Business Mindset, CEO Sisters Road Trip.

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Summary 

Ever wondered what happens when a seasoned corporate recruiter trades eighty-hour workweeks for a design portfolio she didn't even own yet? In this episode of CEO Sisters Road Trip, Liz and Sarah sit down with Kathleen Penny, the founder of KLP Interiors, to explore her winding entrepreneurial journey. From her early days as an office manager to her bold leap into design school at Moore College of Art and Design, Kathleen’s story is a masterclass in being intentional, inclusive and having the courage to pivot into a whole new world. 

Together, the trio dives deep into the high-vibe reality of running a referral-based design business, the emotional toll of being a chronic people-pleaser, how to build a small team based on chemistry, and the real way creative experts can leverage AI as a high-speed "intern" without losing the personal touch.

Key Topics

• The Power of the Pivot: Moving from corporate recruiting to interior design and why careers are circuitous, not linear.
• The "Expert's 10 Minutes": Why high-level spatial awareness and years of intuitive skill are worth premium pricing, even if the on-site fix only takes ten minutes.
• The Double-Edged Sword of People-Pleasing: How caring deeply secures a 95% repeat and referral rate while demanding strict boundaries to avoid burnout.
• Building a Team on Chemistry: The art of hiring in a small business and creating a space where employees grow into new roles naturally.
• Interior Designer vs. Interior Decorator: Understanding the distinction between space planning/renovations and finishing a space.
• AI as the Digital Intern: How Kathleen uses AI as a tool to execute her personal, expert prompts instead of letting it dictate design decisions.

Action Items & Takeaways

• Audit Your Experience: Recognize that foundational skills from past "unrelated" jobs (like office management or recruiting) are building blocks for your current CEO journey.
• Protect Your Boundaries: If you're a people-pleaser, delegate tasks and empower your team to handle operations to preserve your mental energy.
• Ditch the Portfolio Imposter Syndrome: Enter pitches or interviews with confidence in your soft skills (like active listening and asking deep questions) rather than just perfect paperwork.

Chapters

• 00:16 - Welcome & Martha Stewart: The Ultimate Entrepreneurial Beacon.
• 02:39 - How Sarah and Kathleen Met: Ornament Booths & Custom Herringbone Mugs.
• 04:46 - Spatial Awareness: The "10-Minute Fix" and Pricing Your Worth.
• 07:33 - Kathleen's Origin Story: From an English Degree to Tech Recruiting.
• 10:49 - The Bold Leap: Moore College of Art and Design & The Circuitous Career.
• 16:37 - Gen X, Boundaries, and the Mental Load of People-Pleasing.
• 22:14 - Team Chemistry & Giving Yourself Permission to Delegate.
• 30:37 - Shattering the Glass Ceiling: Women Supporting Women vs. Mean Girl Drama.
• 34:00 - Education Minute: Interior Designer vs. Decorator.
• 35:27 - Leveraging AI: Working with "The Intern" Without Sacrificing Human Chemistry.
• 43:03 - Where to Find KLP Interiors & The Westchester Studio.

Resources

• GenTelligence: Snap Shots and Strategies for Making the Most of Multi-Generational Workforces (Mentioned by Liz).

Guest Links

• Website: KLP Interiors
• Instagram: @KLPInteriors
• Showroom: Westchester, PA (by appointment or by chance!)

Keywords 

Interior Design, Women in Business, Career Pivot, Team Building, Client Referrals, Mindset, Gen X, AI in Design, Female Founders, CEO Sisters, Professional Development.

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Summary

What happens when a high-achieving evolutionary biologist leaves a prestigious academic career, handles the chaotic logistics of a three-boy household, and unexpectedly finds her true creative voice in raw clay? In this episode of the CEO Sisters Road Trip, sisters Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman sit down with Carrie Norin, the brilliant founder of Matte Porcelain Design—a luxury line of unglazed, matte porcelain wearable art. Carrie takes us on her journey through a profound identity shift, detailing how she traded her "Type A" academic grind for an intentional, family-focused creative lifestyle. Together, they break down the beauty of Wabi-Sabi (the intersection of perfection and imperfection), the subtle guilt women face when shifting gears, and why we need to reclaim the term "lifestyle business" with pride. Carrie also drops invaluable wisdom on running a one-woman show, choosing high-vibe wholesale accounts over grueling craft shows, and leveraging AI to balance the workload.

Key Topics

• The Identity Shift: Transitioning from "Dr. Norin" running an intensive science program to find therapeutic refuge working with raw clay.
• Reclaiming the "Lifestyle Business": Shaking off the ego-driven narrative of infinite scaling and celebrating a business intentionally designed to prioritize your family and well-being.
• The Aesthetic of Wabi-Sabi: Embracing organic, imperfect forms while honoring the raw, tactile porcelain material through precision hand-sanding.
• Intentional Wholesaling Over Consignment: Moving away from direct-to-consumer craft shows and high-stress consignment agreements to form deep, high-buy-in boutique partnerships.
• Yoga as a Creative Catalyst: Quietening the analytical "Type A" mind on the mat to unlock genuine bursts of personal and professional clarity.
• The AI "Colleague": How Carrie effectively balances a solo business by treating AI platforms (Claude and ChatGPT) as critical debating partners.

Action Items & Takeaways

• Audit Your Business Ecosystem: Evaluate your current client and retail channels. Don't be afraid to whittle down accounts (just as Carrie dropped from 20 down to 5 vital stores) to protect your peace and energy.
• Demand Retail Buy-In: Avoid the pitfalls of consignment where vendors have zero skin in the game. Prioritize wholesale partners who are financially invested in your brand story.
• Train AI to Debate You: Don't settle for a digital "yes-man." When prompting tools like ChatGPT or Claude, intentionally ask them to poke holes in your logic or offer critical counterarguments.
• Schedule Distraction-Free Mind Time: Step away from the screens and create a meditative boundary (like a yoga practice) to let your subconscious mind work through complex entrepreneurial bottlenecks.

Chapters

• 00:00 – Sisterly Banter: Backyard landscaping, "smoker's laughs," and Liz’s legendary Madonna theater audition.
• 03:31 – Welcoming Carrie Norin and introducing the luxury brand, Matte Porcelain Design.
• 10:46 – The Pandemic Pivot: Deciding to step away from the multi-city commute to anchor into family life.
• 14:20 – Overcoming the "Just a Jewelry Maker" Mindset: Ego, women's liberation, and career guilt.
• 19:08 – Redefining Success: Embracing a lifestyle business that honors the season you are in.
• 22:13 – Discovering the raw, earthy feel of unglazed porcelain and the philosophy of Wabi-Sabi.
• 27:42 – Ruthless Boundaries: Transitioning out of public art shows and shifting strictly to high-end wholesale.
• 35:34 – From Lab Coats to Yoga Mats: Accessing vulnerability and professional breakthroughs on the mat.
• 39:01 – Solo Entrepreneurship: Streamlining operational logistics with the help of AI.
• 42:42 – Supporting Small Businesses: Where to find Matte Porcelain Designs locally and how to stay connected.

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Featured Sponsor: The Canton Cultural Center for the Arts
• Books Reference: Lingo and The Self-Employed Life by Jeffrey Shaw
• Guest Website:https://carrienorin.com/, https://matteporcelaindesign.com/
• Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matte.porcelain
• Guest Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/matte.porcelain

Stores mentioned:

• Maison 53 
• Merzatta 
• Maker and Muse 
• Urban Muse 

Keywords

Female Entrepreneurs, Small Business Scaling, Lifestyle Business, Ceramic Art, Jewelry Design, Pandemic Pivot, Intentional Living, Wabi-Sabi, Business Boundaries, AI for Entrepreneurs, Yoga and Creativity, CEO Sisters.

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Summary

In this episode, Liz and Sarah explore how small businesses can leverage AI to boost efficiency, creativity, and growth. They discuss practical strategies, ethical considerations, and future trends in AI integration, making complex concepts accessible and actionable.

Key  topics

• AI integration strategies for small business
• Building a digital mind and digital assets
• Balancing human touch with AI automation

Action  items

• Start building your digital mind today by gathering your key assets and creating a framework.
• Practice writing clear prompts to get the best AI outputs.
• Stay curious and keep learning about AI to stay competitive.
• Identify tasks that can be automated to free up your time for strategic work.

Sound bites

"AI isn't just about speed, it's about value"

"Your most precious resource is time"

"Your business matters, and AI can help you grow"

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage

03:27 The Impact of AI on Business

08:12 AI as a Tool for Efficiency

12:25 Understanding AI's Role in Society

14:52 Keeping Humanity in AI

19:10 The Value of Human Touch in Art

22:25 AI's Role in Business Efficiency

26:20 Boundaries of AI in Customer Interaction

29:36 The Future of Digital Minds in Business

37:18 CEO Sister’s Road Trip Video Outro - 60 seconds v2.mp4 

Resources

• Jeff Woods, The AI Driven Leader - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7F4XK7X
• Sandy Waggett, MSW Interactive Designs - https://mswinteractivedesigns.com
• Radio Shack (Tandy 500) - https://www.radioshack.com
• Speak and Spell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speak_%26_Spell

Keywords

AI in business, small business growth, automation, digital transformation, AI strategies, efficiency, digital mind, future of AI, entrepreneurship, technology trends

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Summary

In this episode, sisters Liz and Sarah explore the empowering reasons why launching or restarting a business after 40+ can be a game-changing move, fueled by confidence, life experience, and authenticity. They share personal insights, challenges, and practical advice for women embracing their second act with boldness and purpose.

Key Topics:

• The shift in mindset from career start to second act: less fear, more authenticity
• The advantages of age and life experience in entrepreneurship and leadership
• The importance of saying no: setting boundaries to protect your time and energy
• Lessons from decades of experience that streamline decision-making
• Embracing seasons in business and life: when to pause, pivot, or press play
• Breaking the myth that entrepreneurship is only for the young
• The power of transparency and vulnerability with technology and team members
• Practical strategies for thriving as a late starter, including leveraging confidence and avoiding burnout

Chapters:

00:00 Nostalgia and Sassy Magazine

05:58 Life Skills and Confidence in Entrepreneurship

09:22 Transitioning Careers After 40

13:19 Selling Transformation vs. Services

21:15 The Power of Saying No

26:52 Embracing Technology and Transparency

31:54 Caring Less About Others' Opinions

35:15 CEO Sister’s Road Trip Video Outro 

Resources:

The Transformation Economy by Joe Pine

Your Business Matters

Sarah Jane Pottery

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Financial Facts or Feelings? How to Use Data to Overcome Overwhelm and Drive Decisions

In this solo episode, Liz Szporn of CEO Sisters Road Trip shares a simple but powerful approach to gaining instant clarity on your financial health. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed or unsure about your business’s numbers, learn how to cut through the noise with just a few key data points to make confident decisions.

Key Topics:

• The common "ostrich effect"—avoiding financial data and its impact on decision-making
• How to identify what financial data truly matters during times of overwhelm
• The story of a client with a perceived 20% revenue drop that was actually a 5% increase
• The three KPIs to focus on for quick financial clarity: top line income, expenses, and net income
• The power of looking at year-over-year comparisons for meaningful insights
• Using curiosity and a "what if up" mindset to reframe perceived negatives
• Practical steps: pulling and comparing financial statements from the past quarter and last year
• How to categorize expenses into necessary, nice-to-have, and negotiable
• Actionable tips for renegotiating vendor contracts and cutting unnecessary costs
• The importance of trust, curiosity, and data in business decision-making

Resources & Links:

• Instant Clarity Worksheet

Connect with Liz Szporn:

• LinkedIn
• www.yourbusinessmatters.dev

Remember, small steps with data can lead to big clarity. Don't let overwhelm hold you back—your business's health is worth regular check-ins! 

Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

Summary

Have you ever walked away from a high-stakes meeting or a sales call realizing you spent the entire time speaking in circles? In this episode, Liz and Sarah sit down with Jen Nonn-Murphy, a licensed speech-language pathologist and CEO coach who specializes in the brain science of communication. 

Jen explains why smart, capable women often fall into the "over-explaining trap" and how cognitive overload—juggling value propositions alongside everyday mental loads like family schedules—can lead to rambling and lost confidence. Jen shares actionable, science-backed formulas to help leaders find their "grit," stop apologizing for their success, and start leading with clarity.

Key Topics

• The Pathology of Over-Explaining: Understanding why our brains hit "working memory" limits during high-pressure conversations.
• The "What, Why, Next" Framework: A repeatable 3-step formula to organize thoughts in real-time.
• The Power of the Pause: Why a 2–3 second silence is your most assertive leadership tool.
• The Goldilocks Dilemma: Navigating the fine line between being seen as "too soft" (a supporter) and "too aggressive" (not collaborative).
• Creating Supportive Cultures: Lessons from Silicon Valley on supporting other women’s voices and having tough, "clear is kind" conversations.

Action Items & Takeaways

• Practice with Frameworks: Use "What, Why, Next" to structure your business pitch or service descriptions to avoid circular talking.
• Anchor Your Practice: Link your communication practice to daily habits, like brushing your teeth or your morning commute, to build muscle memory.
• Utilize the "Power Pause": Give your brain space to process a question before jumping in to avoid "railroading" the conversation.
• Audit Your Tone: Strip away qualifiers like "I was thinking maybe" and replace them with decisive language paired with a collaborative tone.
• AI as a Thought Partner: Use AI to help draft communication frameworks, but ensure you maintain your human connection and authenticity.

Chapters

• [00:18] Sisterhood & Spring: College updates and life "life-ing".
• [02:38] The Over-Explaining Trap: Why we struggle to own our value.
• [10:06] Meet Jen Nonn-Murphy: From pediatric speech therapy to CEO coaching.
• [13:10] Brain Science: Working memory and cognitive overload in sales.
• [17:36] Tool #1: The "What, Why, Next" Framework (Live Practice).
• [22:42] AI in Communication: Using technology as a thought partner.
• [27:26] Tool #2: Pause, Then Speak.
• [31:41] The Goldilocks Dilemma: Assertive vs. Aggressive communication.
• [36:06] Supporting Women: A story on salary negotiation and first offers.
• [42:27] Shifting from Selling to Guiding: Advice for creative entrepreneurs.
• [45:11] The Gritty Journey: Lonesome Dove and prioritizing the "One Thing".

Guest Links

• Website: CCSpeechCoach.com (Take the Communication Self-Rating Scale!).
• Instagram: @clear_confident_coach.
• LinkedIn: Jen Nonn-Murphy.

Keywords
Communication Science, Female Entrepreneurs, Leadership Coaching, Speech Pathology, Cognitive Overload, Creative CEO, Sales Conversations, Women in Business, Assertive Communication, CEO Sisters Road Trip.

Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her