As the President of the OSV Institute, Jason Shanks gives grants to initiatives within the Church, which offers him a fascinating perspective on innovation (or the lack thereof) in the world of Catholic ministry. He and Anthony discuss the state of the Church, especially why we need new ideas from entrepreneurial Catholics. Jason also shares the lessons he’s learned about effective innovation — how to stay centered, measure results, and make transformative changes.

Visit OSVChallenge.com to learn about the OSV Innovation Challenge.

Resources mentioned in this episode: Good to Great and Built to Last by Jim Collins